Showing posts with label Mosque at Ground Zero Hysteria. Show all posts
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Fw: tolerence

Subject: Fw: tolerence



*Whether or not you're ok with a mosque near Ground Zero, this is very funny
and too clever not to pass on!
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I am truly perplexed that so many of my friends are against a mosque being
built near Ground Zero.
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I think it should be the goal of every American to be tolerant.  The mosque
should be allowed, in an effort to promote tolerance.

That is why I also propose, that two nightclubs be opened next door to the
mosque thereby promoting tolerance within the mosque. We could call one of
the clubs (which would be gay) "The Turban Cowboy" and the other being a
topless bar "You Mecca Me Hot".

Next door should be a butcher shop that specializes in pork and adjacent to
that have an open barbeque pork rib restaurant, called something like “ Iraq
o’ Ribs”?

Across the street there could be a very daring lingerie store called
Victoria Keeps Nothing Secret with sexy mannequins in the window modeling
the goods.

Next door to the lingerie shop, there would be room for an Adult Toy Shop
(Koranal Knowledge), its name in flashing neon lights, and on the other side
a liquor store, maybe call it "Morehammered"?

Then the Muslims could be allowed to show their tolerance. Problem solved.

If you agree in promoting tolerance and you think this is a good plan, pass
it on.

Date: Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 8:22 AM
Subject: More on Mosque
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The Ground Zero mosque - what US could learn from Israel

By DANIEL GORDIS
09/02/2010

Life in our region has taught us that the first necessary step to
defending yourself is acknowledging that someone is out to destroy
you.

In its basic form, the Ground Zero mosque debate boils down to a
conflict between two competing values – American freedom of religion
versus the sensitivities of the families of the victims of 9/11.

The freedom-of-religion argument suggests that if Jews sought to build
a synagogue at Ground Zero (or anywhere else, for that matter), they
would be within their rights. That’s the American way. The opposing
view suggests that while not every Catholic was guilty in the
Holocaust, and not every Muslim perpetrated the crimes of 9/11,
sensitivities still matter. Pope John Paul II had the decency to force
the Carmelite nuns out of Auschwitz, and Muslim leaders, too, ought to
relocate their project.

Similarly, the mutual accusations are parallel: If you are opposed to
the mosque, you are an Islamophobic racist. And if you’re in favor of
it, you’re simply insensitive to the pain of those who lost loved ones
in the attack.
But we Israelis have learned from our experience that matters are more
complicated. One need not be racist or Islamophobic to be concerned
about the mosque. For life in our region has taught us that the first
necessary step to defending yourself is acknowledging that someone
else is out to destroy you.

In the suburban, well-educated, politically and Jewishly liberal
America in which I grew up, we didn’t use the label “enemy.” “Enemy”
was a dirty word, because it implied the immutability of conflict.
Yes, there were people who fought us, but only because we hadn’t yet
arrived at a fair resolution of our conflict. We needed to understand
them, so we could then resolve the conflicts that divided us.

I still recall being jarred, when we made aliya, by the
matter-of-factness with which Israelis use the word “enemy.” But it
wasn’t a judgment or an accusation. It was simply a fact: There are
people out to destroy our state, who seek to kill us and our children.
And as the intifada later amply demonstrated, they did not yearn for
our understanding or our friendship. They wanted our demise.

YEARS AGO, we took our then teenage daughter to an evening sponsored
by the army, at which religious parents could ask questions about what
the army would be like for their daughters. Some of the parents were
downright hostile, clearly opposed to the prospect of their daughters
joining the IDF. At one point, an obviously angry father stood up,
turned to the base commander and asked (or more accurately hissed),
“Do you make the girls work on Shabbat?”

The room was perfectly silent, for everyone knew the answer. No one
moved. Even the base rabbi said nothing. He stood at the podium,
leaned into the mike and, lost in thought, played with his beard.

Suddenly, one of the three soldiers who’d been brought to address the
parents, a young woman with her uniform shirt buttoned up to her chin,
her sleeves extending to her wrists and her armyissued skirt down to
her ankles, looked the father right in the eye, and without being
called on, said to him, “Of course we work on Shabbat.” And then,
after a second’s pause, she added, “Gam ha’oyev oved beshabbat” – the
enemy also works on Shabbat.

It was a game changer. “What?” she essentially asked. “You think we do
this for fun? There are people out there trying to destroy us. Either
we’re as serious about this conflict as they are, or they’re going to
win.”

I hadn’t thought of that young woman in years, but ever since the
Cordoba Initiative controversy erupted, I’ve remembered her
repeatedly. For Israelis do have something to teach Americans, and
it’s very similar to what she said to that father. It goes something
like this: It’s fine to say that “America is not at war with Islam,”
to point out that most Muslims are not terrorists and that many
American Muslims are moderates. That’s true, as far as it goes.

But it only goes so far. Because America is at war and its enemies are
Muslims. Politically correct hairsplitting runs the risk of Americans
blinding themselves to that simple but critical fact. It makes no
difference what percentage of the world’s Muslims wants to destroy
America. There are enough of them that US air travel is now abominably
unpleasant and, more importantly, enough of them that more strikes on
America appear inevitable.

The US got lucky on Christmas Day when the bomber headed to Detroit
failed to detonate his explosives, and was lucky again in Times Square
in May, but less fortunate at Fort Hood. Yet those may be but the
beginning. We could, heaven forbid, come to see 9/11 as child’s play.

THE UNITED States’ future is under attack, but Americans resist
admitting it. PresidentBarack Obama has sent 30,000 additional troops
to Afghanistan, but he has also said that he intends to pull them out
by July. Can we imagine FDR declaring war on Germany, but then adding
that the war had to be over in a year, or in two? It would have been
laughable. And America would have lost. The US has to decide – is it
committed to destroying those who wish it ill, or is it willing to be
destroyed by them? Those, sadly, are its only two alternatives.

When my parents were teenagers, they watched as evil took hold of
Europe. But then they saw America turn itself into an unprecedented,
enormous military machine. For America’s leaders understood that if
the Nazis won, the world as we knew it would be over; we could either
destroy Nazism, or have no reason to go on.

But when my children were teenagers, a different evil took root across
their eastern horizon. This time, though, the world has feigned
impotence. Iran is at the nuclear threshold. Iraq was at best a
“non-failure.” The battle against the Taliban and al-Qaida may take
years, or decades, and may require many lives sacrificed if we are to
win. But America has grown war-weary. Obama is already planning to
bring the troops home; the word “terrorist” is increasingly off-limits
in the US because it is considered “politically loaded.”

Americans simply want the conflict to be over.

Its tendency to gentility is part of what has made America great. But
an unwillingness to call an “enemy” an enemy could lead to America’s
demise. For Islam’s radical leaders tell us clearly what they seek: a
world united under Islam, with America’s sacred freedoms eradicated as
a new “morality” replaces them. What is much less clear is whether
Americans are willing to fight – to die and to kill – to protect those
freedoms.

Whether or not the Ground Zero mosque ultimately gets built may not
matter nearly as much as whether or not Americans are willing to gird
themselves for the battles that sadly lie ahead. We Israelis
understand the fatigue that comes with war. We, like Americans, would
much prefer a world in which we did not have mortal enemies. We, like
Americans, would much prefer that our children went to college at 18,
and not to years of military service. But we’ve learned that anything
short of absolute clear-sightedness and honesty – coupled with
extraordinary sacrifice – could destroy us.

The same is true for America. The truly important question that the
“Islamophobia” accusation raises is not what will transpire with a
proposed building, but what will happen with a worldview. It still
remains to be seen if America will do what it must if it is to
guarantee the survival of the very values it is now debating. America
can remain the “land of the free,” but only if it is also the “home of
the brave.”

The writer is senior vice president of the Shalem Center in Jerusalem.
He is the author of Saving Israel: How the Jewish People Can Win a War
that May Never End, which recently received a 2009 National Jewish
Book Award. He blogs at http://danielgordis.org/.

Fw: Mosque of Conquest

Mosque of conquest?

By William J. Federer © 2010 Muslim groups are proposing a 13-story $100 million mosque in the most prominent spot in America - the heart of downtown New York Cityy near the World Trade Center site.

Is this mosque a sign of America's tolerance, or is it a sign of Muslim conquest?

The past may hold answers:

In 630, Muhammad led 10,000 Muslim soldiers into Mecca and turned the pagans' most prominent spot, the Ka'aba, into the Masjid al-Haram Mosque.

In 634, Rightly Guided Caliph Umar conquered Syria and turned the Christians' most prominent spot, the Church of Job, famous for being visited by Saint Silva in the fourth century, into the Mosque of Job.

In 637, Caliph Umar conquered Hebron and turned the second-most prominent spot in Judaism, the Cave of the Patriarchs, into the Ibrahimi Mosque. (This was repeated by Saladin in 1188.)

In 638, Muslim generals Amr ibn al-As and Khalid ibn al-Walid conquered Gaza and turned the prominent fifth-century Byzantine church into the Great Mosque of Gaza.

In 638, Caliph Umar conquered Jerusalem. In 691, Caliph Al-Malik ordered the _Dome of the Rock_ built on the most prominent spot in Judaism, the Temple Mount, followed by Caliph Al-Walid building the Al-Aqsa Mosque there in 705.

In 651, Muslims conquered Persia and turned Zoroastrian temples in Bukhara and Istakhr into mosques.

In 706, after Muslims took Damascus from the Byzantine Empire, Caliph Al-Walid turned the prominent Orthodox Church of St. John the Baptist into the Umayyad Mosque.

In 710, Gen. Muhammad bin Qasim conquered Pakistan, defiled the prominent Sun Temple in Multan, which house the great idol "sanam," and erected a mosque.

In 784, after the conquest of Spain, Emir Abd ar-Rahman turned the prominent Visigothic Christian Church of Saint Vincent into the Great Aljama Mosque of Cordoba.

After the conquest of Egypt, Caliphs al-Mamun
(813-833) and al-Hakim (996-1021) turned prominent Coptic Christian churches and Jewish synagogues in Cairo into mosques.

In 831, Muslims conquered Palermo, Sicily, and Asad ibn al-Furat turned the prominent Church of Saint Mary of the Assumption into the Great Mosque of Bal'harm.

In 1193, Muslims conquered Delhi, India, and Qutbuddin Aibak turned the Red Citadel in Dhillika, the most prominent spot of the last Hindu rulers, into the Qutb Minar Mosque.

From 1250-1517, Mamluk Muslims controlled the Golan Heights and used the ancient Synagogue of Katzrin as a mosque.

In 1387, Turkish Muslims conquered Thessaloniki and turned the Katholikon Monastery and the Church of Aghia Sophia, which housed the relics of Saint Gregorios Palamas, into mosques, as Symeon of Thessaloniki recorded: "The greatest number of the buildings of the churches fell to them, of which _the first_ was the Holy Church of the Savior. … These weree trampled underfoot and the infidels rejoiced in them. … Most of thhe religious buildings in the city were despoiled, while altars were demolished and sacred things profaned."

On May 29, 1453, Sultan Mehmet II conquered Constantinople and turned the great Byzantine church, Hagia Sophia, into the Ayasofya Mosque. The _largest_ church in Christendom for a thousand years, the church's four acres of gold mosaics were covered with whitewash and Quran verses.

In 1458, Sultan Mehmet II conquered Athens and turned the Greeks' most prominent spot, the Parthenon on Acropolis hill, into a mosque. When Venetian Gen. Francesco Morosini drove the Muslims out in 1687, a cannonball hit the gunpowder stored in the mosque, blowing it up.

In the 15th century, Ottoman invaders turned Saint Clement's Macedonian Orthodox Monastery in Plaosnik, Balkans, into the Imater Mosque.

From 1519-1858, Muslim Mughal rulers gained control of India and turned over 2,000 Hindu temples into mosques, including demolishing the Temple of Ram Janmabhoomi in Ayodhya, the birthplace of Rama, and replacing it with the Babri Mosque.

India's Mughal Muslim ruler, Jahangir (1605-1627), wrote in Tujuk-i-Jahangiri: "At the city of Banaras [was] a temple. … I  made it my plea for thhrowing down the temple …  and on the spot, with the very same materials,, I erected the great mosque."

In 1543, Hayreddin Barbarossa's 30,000 Muslim troops wintered in Toulon, France, and turned the prominent Toulon Cathedral into a mosque.

In 1570, under Sultan Selim II Khan, Muslims conquered Paphos, Cyprus, and Gov. Mehmet Bey Ebubkir turned the prominent Christian church into the Great Mosque of Paphos.

In 1571, Muslims invaded Famagusta, Cyprus, and turned Saint Nicolas Cathedral, a rare Gothic church, into the Lala Mustafa Pasha Mosque, and Saint Sophia Cathedral in Nicosia, constructed in 1228, into the Selimiye Mosque.

In 1588, Sultan Murat III turned the Eastern Orthodox Church of Saint John the Forerunner in Constantinople into the Hirami Ahmet Pasha Mosque.

In 1781, after having conquered the Old City of Acre, Ottoman Muslims turned the Roman Catholic church built by Crusaders into the Jezzar Ahmet Pasha Mosque, where a hair from Muhammad's beard is preserved.

In 1923, Muslims expelled Greeks from Turkey and turned Orthodox churches into mosques.

In World War II, Nazis allied with Bosnians and turned the prominent Artists' Gallery Museum in Zagreb, Croatia, into a mosque.

In the 1950s, Muslims expelled Jews from Arab lands and turned synagogues into mosques.

Algerian Muslims warred against French colonial rule till France pulled out in 1962, after which the Cathedral of St. Philippe was turned into the Ketchaoua Mosque. Violence against Jews caused 30,000 to flee and the Great Synagogue of Oran was turned into the Mosque Abdellah Ben Salem.

In 1974, Turkish Muslims invaded northern Cyprus, and prominent Greek Orthodox churches were turned into mosques.

In 1981, Muslim immigrants to the Netherlands converted Amsterdam's historic Catholic Sint-Ignatiuskerk into the Fatih Mosque, and a synagogue in The Hague into the Aksa Mosque.

On Sept. 11, 2001, Muslim terrorists attacked the most prominent spot in America, the World Trade Center. In less than 10 years, the number of mosques in New York City has skyrocketed to over 140.

In light of history, reasonable citizens have a right to question if the mosque proposed at Ground Zero is a sign of America's tolerance, or a sign of Muslim conquest?

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William J. Federer is the author of "What  Every American Needs to Know About the Quran: A  History of Islam and the United States."

Fwd: Free Markets

makes a lot of sense........................
 
Sent: 9/1/2010 5:07:50 A.M. Central Daylight Time
Subj: Fwd: Free Markets



This idea may just solve a problem using free markets...
If it is true that the building of a mosque near Ground Zero is to promote tolerance, I suggest that a gay nightclub be opened next door to the mosque. Two names suggested are: "The Turban Cowboy" and "You Mecca Me Hot."

On the other side they should open a BBQ restaurant that features pork! Of course, the outdoor cookers would give a fantastic "air" to the area.

And across the street a store that sells and displays bikinis or ladies lingerie on mannequins or live models could open.
Of course, no New York neighbor would be complete without a bar and pole dancing strippers!
All those free trade businesses should make the Muslims feel welcome!


Do you think the Muslims will agree that tolerance is a two-way street?

FW: Building Permit-I'd laugh if it did not seem so true today

----- Forwarded Message ----
From:
Sent: Tue, August 31, 2010 2:49:34 PM
Subject: FW: Building Permit-I'd laugh if it did not seem so true today

I recently applied for a building permit for a new house. It was going to be 100 ft tall and 400 ft wide with 9 gun turrets at various heights and windows all over the place and a loud outside entertainment sound system.

It would have parking for 200 cars and I was going to paint it snot green with pink trim.

The City Council told me to forget it... AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN! So I sent in the application again, but this time I called it a Mosque.

Work starts on Monday.

 
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