Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 8:11 AM
To: Russell, Dave
Subject: FW: Medal of Honor recipient Bud Day Talks of Torture]
I am forwarding this to you FYI because I know it would never pass muster for printing in a newspaper. The credentiials of those involved are impeccable. BG Clements...a P 38 Pilot in WWII and an since, a highly renowned oral surgeon. Colonel Bud Day of course is in a class of his own.
Take in some words from a true warrior.
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Subject: Medal of Honor recipient Bud Day Talks of Torture]
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 19:49:18 +0000
On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 13:21:22 -0400, Donald Dorfman Colonel USAF ret forwarded
statements from Colonel Bud Day USAF ret MOH regarding his torture by the North
Vietnamese while a POW (Prisoner of War)
Colonel Dorfman is an attorney, former USAF JAG, and practices criminal law in
The prelude to the "response" below, from Colonel Bud Day, Medal of Honor
recipient - prisoner of war survivor - reads
"I didn't expect to be reminded of my treatment some 36 years ago on this
holiday weekend but our politicians find it worthy to ignore what some have
tried to recount to them, who have actually been there.."
I got shot down over N Vietnam in 1967...a sq commander.
After I returned in 1973... I published 2 books that dealt a lot with "real
torture" in Hanoi . Our make believe president is branding our country as a
bunch of torturers when he has no idea what torture is.
As for me. Put thru a mock execution because I would not respond...pistol
whipped on the head...same event... Couple of days later...hung by my feet all
day. I escaped and got recaptured a couple of weeks later... I got shot and
recaptured. Being shot was OK...what happened after was not.
They marched me to Vinh... put me in the rope trick. lt almost pulled my arms
out of the sockets. Beat me on the head with a little wooden rod until my eyes
were swelled shut, and my unshot, unbroken hand a pulp.
Next day hung me by the arms...rebroke my right wrist...wiped out the nerves in
my arms that control the hands. Rolled my fingers up into a ball. Only left the
slightest movement of my L forefinger. So I started answering with some
Sent me to Hanoi strapped to a barrel of gas in the back of a truck.
Hanoi ...on my knees. Rope trick again. Beaten by a big fool.
Into leg irons on a bed in Heartbreak Hotel.
Much kneeling--hands up at Zoo.
Really bad beating for refusing to condemn Lyndon Johnson.
Several more kneeling events. I could see my knee bone thru kneeling holes.
There was an escape from the annex to the Zoo. I was the Senior Officer of a
large building because of escape. They started a mass torture of all commanders.
I think it was July 7, 1969...they started beating me with a car fan belt. In
first 2 days I took over 300 strokes. Then stopped counting because I never
thought I would live thru it.
They continued day-nite torture to get me to confess to a non-existent part in
the escape. This went on for at least 3 days. On my knees. Fan belting.... cut
open my scrotum with fan belt stroke. Opened up both knee holes again. My fanny
looked like hamburger. I could not lie on my back.
They tortured me into admitting that I was in on the escape and that my 2
room-mates knew about it.
The next day I denied the lie.
They commenced torturing me again with 3- 6- or 9 strokes of the fan belt every
day from about July 11 or 12rh...to 14 October 1969. I continued to refuse to
lie about my roommates again.
Now, the point of this is that our make-believe president has declared to the
world that we ( U.S. ) are a bunch of torturers... Thus it will be OK to torture
us next time when they catch us....because that is what the U.S. does.
Our make-believe president is a know nothing fool who thinks that pouring a
little water on some one's face, or hanging a pair of womens pants over an Arabs
head is TORTURE. He is a meathead.
I just talked to MOH holder Leo Thorsness who was also in my sq in jail.... as
was John McCain ... and we agree that McCain does not speak for the POW group
when he claims that Al Gharib was torture... or that "water boarding" is
Our president and those fools around him who keep bad mouthing our great country
are a disgrace to the United States . Please pass this info on to Sean Hannity.
He is free to use it to point out the stupidity of the claims that water
boarding ...which has no after effect... is torture. If it got the Arab to cough
up the story about how he planned the attack on the twin towers in NYC ....
hurrah for the guy who poured the water.
BUD DAY, MOH
George Everett "Bud" Day (born February 24, 1925) is a retired U.S. Air
Colonel and a Command
Pilot who served during the Vietnam
War. He is often cited as being the
most decorated U.S. service member since
MacArthur, having received some
seventy decorations, a majority for actions in combat. Day is a recipient of the
Medal of Honor.
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