Subject: Fw: Fwd: One down.....49 to go!!!
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Subject: Fw: Fwd: One down.....49 to go!!!
Subject: Fw: Fwd: One down.....49 to go!!!
Subject: Fw: One down.....49 to go!!! One down.....49 to go!!! Florida is the first state - Hooray for Florida. Gov Rick Scott signed this into law on Tuesday, May 31, 2011. Florida is the first state that is now going to require drug testing for welfare! Some people (ACLU) are crying this is unconstitutional. How is this unconstitutional? It's completely legal that every other working person had to pass a drug test in order to have a J-O-B that supports those on welfare? Forward if you agree!! Let's get Welfare back to the one's who NEED it, not those that WON'T get a JOB.....I AGREE!!! |
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The ACLU has held a long standing position against random workplace drug testing:
Workplace drug testing
It is the ACLU position that random testing is a violation of privacy and a circumstance where you have to prove your innocence without presumption of guilt.
Right wing authoritarians, apparently, do not seem to value much in the Constitution beyond 2nd Amendment rights.
@ Archibald
You raise an interesting point. I wonder if these same people would be so gung ho for having to pass a drug test in order to buy a gun?
Logically it makes just as much sense: why would we want to sell dangerous weapons to people who use or possibly even distribute guns? At the same time, I think the NRA and a lot of these same people would cry bloody murder about such an infringement on their sacred 2nd amendment.
Also, Rick Scott is a tool who is destroying the state of Florida to enrich himself and his cronies. The voters of that state have turned on him and he'll be lucky to serve out his one term without being forced out.
It amazes me that after the welfare reform of the 90s, right wingers seem to hate the remaining welfare recipients even more. This is another 'cure' for a problem that may not exist except in the oddly envious minds of right wingers.
If you're going to spend extra tax dollars to ensure welfare dollars aren't misused, why not target the problem? Here's one reform I'd like to see--put photos on Food Stamp cards so that people can't sell them on the street for other things. I owned a convenience store, and this was such a common and obvious problem with a simple solution. The true goal of this law is to humiliate people. This unforgiving society that right wingers are creating with bursting prisons, few decent jobs, underfunded schools, this is not a country any of us will want to live in very, very soon.
It amazes me that after the welfare reform of the 90s, right wingers seem to hate the remaining welfare recipients even more.
That "reform" gets at least partially credited to the EVIL BILL CLINTON, so naturally it can't be a good thing for them.
The ACLU is pretty damned awesome.
Just sayin'.
gruaud said...
The ACLU is pretty damned awesome.
Just sayin'.
Yeah, pretty damned awesome.
Gruaud I can understand why you would love it.
Is the feeling of love and affection because of clients like the Neo-Nazis and the North American Man/Boy Love Association (NAMBLA)?
Or perhaps it is the fact that it was founded primarily as a protection group for those who were communist or participated in socialist activities and agendas.
I think the fact that it is socialist may be the case for you. (I hope)
Is the feeling of love and affection because of clients like the Neo-Nazis and the North American Man/Boy Love Association (NAMBLA)?
Well that's certainly why I love it. Duh.
So sad, really, the old wingnut attacks on the ACLU because of some of their clients. The ACLU seeks to uphold the law and protect the rights of ALL people, which is exactly why they are both important and awesome They'll defend Rush Limbaugh's rights at the same time that gasbag is damning them for existing. Why? because the law applies equally to all, or else its worthless.
Or perhaps it is the fact that it was founded primarily as a protection group for those who were communist or participated in socialist activities and agendas.
Absofuckinglutely! Because you know what: being communist or socialist ISN'T AGAINST THE LAW, ASSHOLE!
Neither is being Christianity, or anarchist, or advocating the overthrow of the government, or claiming that God demands we outlaw chocolate ice cream. This is America, where we can think, believe, write and say whatever we want under the protection of the as long as it doesn't cause direct harm to others. That's what the ACLU protects. Good on them.
I think you miss the point, anon.
NAMBLA, Westboro Baptist Church, the KKK, Rush Limbaugh...all of these guys are hideous.
ACLU will still fight for their right for free speech.
Doesn't mean they agree with them.
But, by all means, take the easy way out and damn the complexities. Conservatism demands it.
I've heard about this. As if the law itself weren't awful enough, Rohypnol is included as a welfare disqualifier. Hey Floridian women on welfare, if you're drugged and raped and get drug tested soon after, tough shit for you!
And really..."those who WON'T get a job"? This forward just reaffirms my belief that people use conservatism as a defense mechanism to feel superior to others when it's really not warranted. "Well, I have a job in this recession, so I must be doing something that those people aren't."
This is great news! Drug test everyone getting government assistance. Welfare, food stamps, social security, student loans, farm subsidies, oil subsidies, tax cut recipients, veterans assistance, bailout recipients, people who take mortgage interest and other tax deductions...all of 'em. What's that, only welfare recipients? Oh well, equal protection is over-rated anyway.
@Ignorant Anon,
I suppose you expect the big government nanny state to police itself with regards to your enumerated rights as a US citizen? No need for organizations like the ACLU, right? Good luck with that.
I'm quite happy to see mega-billionaires, like the Koch brothers, being drug tested before they enjoy all their tax incentives and loopholes. That goes double for politicians, like Michelle Bachmann, who gets a LOT of BigAg welfare subsidies. Let's drug test her, too, stat!
Love how conservatives choose to cherry-pick whom they don't want the ACLU to defend in lawsuits, but the same conservatives are quite happy for the ACLU to defend Rush Limbaugh & the KKK.
It's the usual conservative "philsophy": MY way or the highway. IOKIYAR. Defend MY beliefs/lifestyle/religion/whatever, but NEVER defend anyone else whose viewpoints/beliefs/religion/race/etc is different from mine.
Well the left has always been well aware of the hypocritical double standards, biases, bigotry, sexism, racism and ELITISM of conservatives, so this comes as no surprise, including conservative trolls dissing gruaud about being, fergawd's sake, some kind of a "commie lover."
I thought the days of Joe McCarthy commie witch hunts died in the 1950s, but I see that the Koch brothers, who are sons of a John Birch Society founder, are funding the tea party, which is now a wholly owned subsidiary of Koch Industries. So I guess it's unsurprising that some conservative resort to dissing communism, even though they really don't understand what communism means or is or how it operated quite some time ago.
If you're so a-skeeered of "commies," then why aren't you questioning all the jobs that your wealthy conservativer overlords, like the Kochs, are shipping off to *Communist* China??? Ever consider that little conundrum? No? Didn't think so...
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