Fw: "Rescue" of Captain Philips
An account by a military man. Cannot detemine if it is true, but it sounds quite credible to me.
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Having spoken to some SEAL pals here in Virginia Beach yesterday and asking why this thing dragged out for 4 days, I got the following:
1. BHO wouldn't authorize the DEVGRU/NSWC SEAL teams to the scene for 36 hours going against OSC (on scene commander) recommendation.
2. Once they arrived, BHO imposed restrictions on their ROE that they couldn't do anything unless the hostage's life was in "imminent" danger
3. The first time the hostage jumped, the SEALS had the raggies all sighted in, but could not fire due to ROE restriction
4. When the navy RIB came under fire as it approached with supplies, no fire was returned due to ROE restrictions. As the raggies were shooting at the RIB, they were exposed and the SEALS had them all dialed in.
5. BHO specifically denied two rescue plans developed by the Bainbridge CPN and SEAL teams
6. Bainbridge CPN and SEAL team CDR finally decide they have the OpArea and OSC authority to solely determine risk to hostage. 4 hours later, 3 dead raggies
7. BHO immediately claims credit for his "daring and decisive" behaviour. As usual with him, it's BS.
So per our last email thread, I'm downgrading Oohbaby's performace to D-. Only reason it's not an F is that the hostage survived. Read the following accurate account.
Philips’ first leap into the warm, dark water of the Indian Ocean Bainbridge in range and a rescue by his country’s Navy possible, Philips threw himself off of his lifeboat prison, enabling Navy shooters onboard the destroyer a clear shot at his captors — and none was taken.
The guidance from National Command Authority — the president of the United States, Barack Obama — had been clear: a peaceful solution was the only acceptable outcome to this standoff unless the hostage’s life was in clear, extreme danger.
The next day, a small Navy boat approaching the floating raft was fired on by the Somali pirates — and again no fire was returned and no pirates killed. This was again due to the cautious stance assumed by Navy personnel thanks to the combination of a lack of clear guidance from Washington and a mandate from the commander in chief’s staff not to act until Obama, a man with no background of dealing with such issues and no track record of decisiveness, decided that any outcome other than a “peaceful solution” would be acceptable.
After taking fire from the Somali kidnappers again Saturday night, the onscenecommander decided he’d had enough.
Keeping his authority to act in the case of a clear and present danger to the hostage’s life and having heard nothing from Washington since yet another request to mount a rescue operation had been denied the day before, the Navy officer — unnamed in all media reports to date — decided the AK47 one captor had leveled at Philips’ back was a threat to the hostage’s life and ordered the NSWC team to take their shots.
Three rounds downrange later, all three brigands became enemy KIA and Philips was safe.
There is upside, downside, and spinside to the series of events over the last week that culminated in yesterday’s dramatic rescue of an American hostage.
Almost immediately following word of the rescue, the Obama administration and its supporters claimed victory against pirates in the Indian Ocean and [1] declared that the dramatic end to the standoff put paid to questions of the inexperienced president’s toughness and decisiveness.
Despite the Obama administration’s (and its sycophants’) attempt to spin yesterday’s success as a result of bold, decisive leadership by the inexperienced president, the reality is nothing of the sort.
What should have been a standoff lasting only hours — as long as it took the USS Bainbridge and its team of NSWC operators to steam to the location — became an embarrassing four day and counting standoff between a ragtag handful of criminals with rifles and a U.S. Navy warship.
Fw: "Rescue" of Captain Philips
4/20/2009 07:56:00 AM
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What a whiner. These people are deranged. The President wants a peaceful solution if at all possible, and when that apparently can't happen the use of deadly force is authorized. What, exactly, is wrong with this?
Oh I forgot, this is the "shoot first, shoot second, shoot some more and then brag about how great you are crowd". Maybe if a certain other president had subscribed to the theory that peaceful solutions are preferable and force should only be used in situations of imminent danger we wouldn't still be dealing with one of the biggest strategic disasters in American history.
Some of this is possibly true - as in BHO, as CiC, did attempt to negotiate and find a peaceful solution. Woweee... what a "stupid" thing to do (duh). Probably most of it is made up wingnut foaming at the mouth angry stupidity.
Frankly, it doesn't matter what BHO - or for that matter, ANY politician who is not a freaked out wingnut (aka: Darth Cheney, I'm talking to you) - does at this point in time. Barry Sotero Telepromtr! could single-handedly cure cancer, end all wars, heal the sick, etc etc (you get the drift), vastly improve the economy, solve global warming, and THESE idiots would still be hating on him so bad and be insanely angry just because.
These "folks" will never be satisfied until the corpse of Hitler is revived and running their world for them.
All bets are off, and frankly the use of the term Nazi applies to these folks from here on in.
Even my own family has shown themselves for the bigotted creeps they have become after incessant brainwashing by Faux Nutwork, Lush Rimjob, Insane Hannity, Billo the Clown O'Liely, and weird-o Beck, and their strange, weird cult-like "christianist" churches.
Frankly, I don't recognize the family I grew up with (and we were raised by parents who were pretty much not racist & we are all well educated), and I simply cannot imagine what less educated folks who were raised to be very bigoted must be like at this point.
Sickening and of concern....
Um, I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure the Navy's Rules of Engagement are standard throughout the entire Navy, including off the coast of Somalia. In other words, they are not to engage in offensive action unless they believe that there is an imminent danger to the hostage, unless otherwise ordered to do so.
Furthermore, Obama SPECIFICALLY gave the captain of the USS Bainbridge the authority to do whatever he felt was needed to rescue Phillips as safely as possible and with as little danger as possible. But hey, I guess that part of being a Navy SEAL is the ability to read minds and determine what exactly did and did not go on off the coast of Somalia while chilling in a bar in Virginia Beach.
Poor little wingers. And they had gotten their hopes of a major fiasco up too.
To the 2nd commenter: don't sink to their level. Don't call them Nazis just because they call Obama a Nazi.
Anyhow, this is another piece that seems like wishful thinking: they really, really wish that Obama had terribly botched the rescue so they could proclaim him a strategic failure, so they're looking for any possible way to declare what happened as a screw-up.
Hmm, so are the "raggies" or "brigands"?
"Cannot detemine if it is true, but it sounds quite credible to me."
Translation: "Haven't bothered to determine if it is true, but I really really really really want it to be true, so I'm forwarding it to my entire address book! Whaddaya think of that, Obamie!?"
I'm a tad surprised that they aren't citing the genius legacy of George W. Bush as the reason this problem was finally resolved to their satisfaction.
Thanks! We got this at a group blog - and quickly exposed it as a cut-and-paste job. It's just like that bogus Obama Iraq e-mail. We might post on this one later. Keep up the vigil!
Here's the thing -- the Navy did exactly what the lessons of Waco and Ruby Ridge should have taught them, and that was wait them out until they either gave up or screwed up. I really doubt Obama had much of anything to do with it except to sign off on the course of action worked out between the Navy and the FBI negotiators. Which, barring special Jimmy-Carter-at-Three-Mile-Island expertise on Obama's part, is exactly what he should have done.
Just FYI for everyone: Truthorfiction.com has come out and listed this one as False.
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