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He has somthing!

Interesting presentation and food for discussion.

If you believe the numbers and the presentation...this is an eye opener.
It takes gum balls for some to finally "get it!" 


gruaud said...

Those drat 'elites' again.

Apparently an elite is anyone who disagrees with right-wing blatherskite.

I'll tell you who the real elites are: the moneyed gentry who get 'gentlemen's C's' at Harvard, game the system on Wall St, nearly crash the economy and get away with it, start wars of aggression to line their own pockets, and have generally, slowly, and most assuredly made life miserable for the rest of us.

And would have the rest of us fight each other for crumbs.

That, folks, is what "elite" means.

Anonymous said...

This is seriously weird. The whole premise is shoddy and illogical.

Who are these "elites"? Who has ever made the case that we need to bring in more immigrants for the express purpose of reducing global poverty? I have NEVER heard that argument advanced by anyone. And how exactly does this tie into our immigration issues? Because we only take in a fraction of the worlds poorer people every year, that means... what, exactly? How does this apply to anything?

Marc with a C said...

Ah, yes. This is another example of right-wing organizations trying to co-opt traditionally liberal causes for their own ends.

A perfect example was when they tried to take over the leadership of the Sierra Club back in 2004 and turn it into an organization dedicated to fighting immigration in the name of environmental protection. It didn't work, so I guess they decided to create their own "pro-environment" anti-immigration group.

ferschitz said...

I believe the opening line to this POS lie says it all:

"If you believe the numbers and the presentation...this is an eye opener."

IF you believe this, THEN it's an eye-opener.

No, I don't believe it. Agree with Marc; that IS what conservatives tried to do with the Sierra Club (didn't work). So guess conservatives started their own club in order to peddle their lies and bullsh*t, as if there's not enough rightwing think tanks doing that already.

Constitution Party for All said...

Give a man a fish; you have fed him for today. Teach a man to fish; and you have fed him for a lifetime”—Author unknown
Entitlements (oxymoron) don't solve anything. A person who tries to succeed always will succeed.

Anonymous said...

Oxymoron, my ass. Conservatives are calling unemployment benefits "entitlements" instead of the safety net that it is. I worked hard and paid a LOT of money into SS, and when I was laid off during the recession, my family and I managed to survive through unemployment insurance, no thanks to the GOP.

What you call entitlements I call humane and extremely beneficial social programs to help the disenfranchised. Oh, and a lot of these programs do 'teach a man to fish', so take your quote and cram it.

Anonymous said...

Entitlements (oxymoron) don't solve anything.

Well, except for lifting tens of millions of seniors out of poverty, injecting much needed buying power into our economy for the last several decades, and softening the blow when disease or unemployment rear their ugly head, I guess I agree with you.

A person who tries to succeed always will succeed.


gruaud said...

You know who thinks they're entitled?

The richest 1%.

Why don't you teabaggers focus on them instead of the poor, the immigrants, the sick, or the unemployed.

You want to be deficit hawks for the guys who created the deficits in the first place? How crazy is that?

Stop letting these people get away with screwing you. Are you so brainwashed that you don't see what will happen if you deregulate and privatize everything, while cutting taxes to the wealthiest among us, and using a crashed economy to dismantle all existing social programs?

It's called feudalism.

Look it up, it was a lot of fun.

Valeyard said...

Golly, I'm convinced. We defintiely can't end world poverty in this way that nobody has ever proposed.

Anonymous said...

Why is "get it" in quotes? Are they implying they don't really get it?

Hooray4US said...

"A person who tries to succeed will always succeed"

In what alternate utopian universe does this "law" apply? Typical rightwing think tank propoganda (also promulgated by some churches) that if you don't succeed, it's only because you're a lazy welfare queen slacker looking for a hand-out.

Biggest load of bull hockey to come down the pike, but it serves to pit conservative serfs against other serfs... hence accomplishing the Elites goal of keeping conservative serfs' attention focused on someone other than those who are ripping them off: the elites on Wall ST, the bankers, the Hedgefunders, the corporate CEOs, etc.


Tootseye said...

Social Security, Medicare & Unemployment Insurance are not entitlements. They are insurance and/or annuities that citizens *pay into* from income earned at jobs. Upon retirement - after years of paying into Soc Sec & Medicare - then retired workers can draw from these plans, which they paid into.

Same with Unemployment Insurance, which workers pay into. As the name indicates, it's an *Insurance* policy that workers can use, when they need it. It's like having fire insurance (which you pay into) & using the money when your house burns down.

I don't understand why conservatives are so unclear on these basic concepts, except that they listen to Fake "Nooz" 24/7 and believe their lies and b.s.

Wake up, conservatives. Some day you, too, may need to use Unemployment Insurance, which you paid into & deserve to use if you need it.

Valeyard said...

A person who tries to succeed always will succeed.

It takes money to make money. The wealthier you are, the more likely you are to move upward. The poorer you are, the more likely you'll stay there.

katz said...

Valeyard: Exactly. Thank you. Anyone who has ever opened a savings account or a CD knows that the best way to make more money is to have money.

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