FW: Letter to Senator Bayh ... health care

Anybody checked any of these references?

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Subject: Letter to Senator Bayh ... health care


Letter to Senator Bayh ... health care
-----These are some of the things that are not being made known UNLESS you
take time to read the more than 1,000 page document:

An Indianapolis doctor's letter to Sen. Bayh about the Bill (Note: Dr.
Stephen E. Frazer, MD practices as an anesthesiologist in Indianapolis ,
IN ). Here is a letter I sent to Senator Bayh. Feel free to copy it and
send it
around to all other representatives. -- Stephen Fraser

Senator Bayh,

As a practicing physician I have major concerns with the health care bill
before Congress. I actually have read the bill and am shocked by the
brazenness of the government's proposed involvement in the
relationship. The very idea that the government will dictate and ration
patient care is dangerous and certainly not helpful in designing a health
care system that works for all. Every physician I work with agrees that we
need to fix our health care system, but the proposed bills currently
making their way through congress will be a disaster if passed.

I ask you respectfully and as a patriotic American to look at the
following troubling lines that I have read in the bill. You cannot
possibly believe that these proposals are in the best interests of the
country and our fellow

Page 22 of the HC Bill: *Mandates that the Govt will audit books of all
employers that self-insure!!*

Page 30 Sec 123 of HC bill*: THERE WILL BE A GOVT COMMITTEE that decides
what treatments/benefits you get*.

Page 29 lines 4-16 in the HC bill: *YOUR HEALTH CARE IS RATIONED!!!

*Page 42 of HC Bill: *The Health Choices Commissioner will choose your HC
benefits for you. You have no choice!

*Page 50 Section 152 in HC bill: *HC will be provided to ALL non-US
illegal or otherwise.
Page 58 HC Bill*: Govt will have real-time access to individuals' finances &
a 'National ID Health card' will be issued!

*Page 59 HC Bill lines 21-24: *Govt will have direct access to your bank
accounts for elective funds transfer.

*Page 65 Sec 164*: Is a payoff subsidized plan for retirees and their
in unions & community organizations: (ACORN).

*Page 84 Sec 203 HC bill*: Govt mandates ALL benefit packages for private HC
plans in the 'Exchange.'
Page 85 Line 7 HC Bill: Specifications of Benefit Levels for Plans *-- The
Govt will ration your health care!
Page 91 Lines 4-7 HC Bill: *Govt mandates linguistic appropriate services.
(Translation: illegal aliens.)*

Page 95 HC Bill Lines 8-18: *The Govt will use groups (i.e. ACORN &
Americorps to sign up individuals for Govt HC plan*.

Page 85 Line 7 HC Bill: *Specifications of Benefit Levels for Plans. (AARP
members - your health care WILL be rationed!)*

Page 102 Lines 12-18 HC Bill: *Medicaid eligible individuals will be
automatically enrolled in Medicaid. (No choice.)*

Page 12 4 lines 24-25 HC: *No company can sue GOVT on price fixing. No
"judicial review" against Govt monopoly*.

Page 127 Lines 1-16 HC Bill: Doctors/ American Medical Association - *The
Govt will tell YOU what salary you can make.*

Page 145 Line 15-17: *An Employer MUST auto-enroll employees into public
option plan. (NOchoice!)*

Page 126 Lines 22-25: *Employers MUST pay for HC for part-time employees AND
their families. (Employees shouldn't get excited about this as employers
will be forced to reduce its work force, benefits, and wages/salaries to
cover such a huge expense.)
Page 149 Lines 16-24: *ANY Employer with payroll 401k & above who does not
provide public option will pay 8% tax on all payroll! (See the last
comment in parenthesis.)*

Page 150 Lines 9-13*: A business with payroll between $251K & $401K who
doesn't provide public option will pay 2-6% tax on all payroll*.

Page 167 Lines 18-23: *ANY individual who doesn't have acceptable HC
according to Govt will be taxed 2.5% of income.*

Page 170 Lines 1-3 HC Bill: *Any NONRESIDENT Alien is exempt from
taxes. (Americans will pay.)
Page 195 HC Bill: *Officers & employees of the GOVT HC Admin.. will have
access to ALLAmericans' finances and personal records*.

Page 203 Line 14-15 HC: *"The tax imposed under this section shall not be
treated as tax." (Yes, it really says that!)*

Page 239 Line 14-24 HC Bill*: Govt will reduce physician services for
Medicaid Seniors. (Low-income and the poor are affected.)

*Page 241 Line 6-8 HC Bill*: Doctors: It doesn't matter what specialty you
have trained yourself in -- you will all be paid the same! (Just TRY to
me that's not Socialism!)
Page 253 Line 10-18*: The Govt sets the value of a doctor's time,
judgment, etc. (Literally-- the value of humans.)*

Page 265 Sec 1131: *The Govt mandates and controls productivity for
HC industries.
Page 268 Sec 1141*: The federal Govt regulates the rental and purchase of
power driven wheelchairs*.

patients - welcome to rationing!

*Page 280 Sec 1151: *The Govt will penalize hospitals for whatever the
Govt deems preventable (i.e...re-admissions).*

Page 298 Lines 9-11: *Doctors: If you treat a patient during initial
admission that results in a re-admission -- the Govt will penalize you*.

Page 317 L 13-20*: PROHIBITION on ownership/investment. (The Govt tells
doctors what and how much they can own!)
Page 317-318 lines 21-25, 1-3*: PROHIBITION on expansion. (The Govt is
mandating that hospitals cannot expand.)*

Page 321 2-13: *Hospitals have the opportunity to apply for exception BUT
community input is required. (Can you say ACORN?)

*Page 335 L 16-25 Pg 336-339: *The Govt mandates establishment of=2
outcome-based measures. (HC the way they want -- rationing.)*

Page 341 Lines 3-9: *The Govt has authority to disqualify Medicare Advance
Plans, HMOs, etc. (Forcing people into the Govt plan)*

Page 354 Sec 1177: *The Govt will RESTRICT enrollment of 'special needs
people!' Unbelievable!
Page 379 Sec 1191*: The Govt creates more bureaucracy via a "Tele-Health
Advisory Committee." (Can you say HC by phone?)*

Page 425 Lines 4-12: *The Govt mandates "Advance-Care Planning Consult."
(Think senior citizens end-of-life patients.)

*Page 425 Lines 17-19: *The Govt will instruct and consult regarding
living wills, durable powers of attorney, etc. (And it's mandatory!)*

Page 425 Lines 22-25, 426 Lines 1-3: *The Govt provides an "approved" list
end-of-life resources; & nbsp;guiding you in death. (Also called 'assisted
Page 427 Lines 15-24: *The Govt mandates a program for orders on
"end-of-life." (The Govt has a say in how your life ends!)

*Page 429 Lines 1-9: *An "advanced-care planning consultant" will be used
frequently as a patient's health deteriorates.

*Page 429 Lines 10-12: *An "advanced care consultation" may include an ORDER
for end-of-life plans. (AN ORDER TO DIE FROM THE GOVERNMENT?!?)
Page 429 Lines 13-25: *The GOVT will specify which doctors can write an
end-of-life order. (I wouldn't want to stand before God after getting paid
for THAT job!)
Page 430 Lines 11-15: *The Govt will decide what level of treatment you will
have at end-of-life! (Again -- no choice!)
Page 469: *Community-Based Home Medical Services = Non-Profit
(Hello? ACORN Medical Services here!?!)
Page 489 Sec 1308*: The Govt will cover marriage and family therapy.
(Which means Govt will insert itself into your marriage even.)

*Page 494-498: *Govt will cover Mental Health Services including defining,
creating, and rationing those services.

Senator, I guarantee that I personally will do everything possible to inform
patients and my fellow physicians about the dangers of the proposed bills
you and your colleagues are debating.

Furthermore, if you vote for a bill that enforces socialized medicine on the
country and destroys the doctor-patient relationship, I will do everything
in my power to make sure you lose your job in the next election.


Stephen E. Fraser, MD

Dear Reader,
I urge you to use the power that you were born with (and the power that
may soon be taken away) and circulate this email to as many people as you
can reach. The Power of the People can stop this from happening to us, our
parents, our grandparents, our children, and to following generations.


gruaud said...

"This is are country!"

Anonymous said...

Anybody checked any of these references?

Nope, but we'll go ahead and accept them as fact and then forward them to everyone we know!

I'm not totally sure, but I think this is a version of a previous RWF we saw a few months back.

gruaud said...

Yeah, we dissected a previous version of this beauty.

Anonymous said...

I would think Dr Fraser would know how to spell his own name. Note he refers to himself as both "Fraser" and "Frazer".

ferschitz said...

Ah yes: panties inna bunch & shouting "CAN YOU BELIEVE THIS IS HAPPENING IN *OUR COUNTRY*"????

Well Dr Fraser/Frazer, when you figger out how to spell yer stooped name, come back and shout at me some more.

I think that the asterisks enclosing *our country* is telling: wingers think that this is only THEIR country and clearly the rest of us can get effed. Leftie & independents are to be neither seen, nor heard.

Yeah, we've seen this junk before, include the hand-wringing, pearl-clutching, fainting couch approach.

Anonymous said...

Q. If gov't covered marriage counseling means the "gov't will insert itself into your marriage." What does a covered visit to the proctologist constitute?

Tootseye said...

Thanks for the laugh, last Anon poster!

I have a related question: if they're so worried about gov't "inserting" itself into marriages, then why is gov't (as endorsed by wingers) preventing gays from getting married?????

Anonymous said...

Tootseye I understand your confusion, maybe this brief illustration can help.

Gov't inserting itself between you and your doctor (healthcare) Not OK

Gov't inserting itself between you and your doctor (abortion) OK

Anonymous said...

This old chestnut again? I wonder if any of the page numbers even correlate to any of the bills anymore.

And yet for all the rage over abortion and gay marriage(?!), I notice they're not concerned in the least about how reform will actually keep costs down and expand coverage.

Here's the previous incarnation, by the way.

katz said...

And the govt is going to steal your wallet!

Anonymous said...

Sort of like:

Gov't sponsored corporate welfare (like no-bid contracts for Haliburton, or massive corp tax cuts): good

Gov't sponsored welfare programs for teh poors (like school breakfast & lunch programs): very, very bad

Anonymous said...

A different version of another email/twitter compilation that FactCheck has already addressed (almost word for word). Most statements were either deemed false or misleading. The last one at least specified that they were addressing H.R. 3200. This one does not specify which bill it's referring to.


ferschitz said...

Thanks almoderate: color me not surprised.

Telling lies is so deeply entrenched in the wingers mindset and personality that they do it naturally and begin to see their lies & spin as truth. Very hard to argue facts with such types and discouraging.

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