Fw: Thoughts of Jefferson and Pelosi

Where have we gone in 200 years....
The wisdom and liberty of a founding father.... vs ... the ignorance and tyrany of the current democratic speaker of the house

Thomas Jefferson - 1802 When we get piled upon one another in large cities, as in Europe, we shall become as corrupt as Europe.
The democracy will cease to exist when you take away
from those who are willing to work and give to those
who would not.

Nancy Pelosi - 2009 As our cities grow larger and larger, it gives us the
opportunity to provide more services to the needy.


Thomas Jefferson - 1802 It is incumbent on every generation to pay its own debts as it goes. A principle which if acted on would save one-half the wars of the world.

Nancy Pelosi - 2009 For those who say that we can't afford to spend money for the good of the people, they are living in a pre-historic world.


Thomas Jefferson - 1802 I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.

Nancy Pelosi - 2009 We must take care of all of our people who cannot take care of themselves.


Thomas Jefferson - 1802 My reading of history convinces me that most bad government results from too much government.

Nancy Pelosi - 2009 Without an organized and strong government, most people would be lost on how to survive.


Thomas Jefferson - 1802 The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.

Nancy Pelosi - 2009 To allow people to have uncontrolled firearms of all types cannot be tolerated by any government.


Thomas Jefferson - 1802 The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.

Nancy Pelosi - 2009 If this country was totally controlled by liberal thinkers, we would never have to go to war.


Thomas Jefferson - 1802 To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.

Nancy Pelosi - 2009 This country's conservatives are out of step with new and innovative ideas which can benefit the masses.


Anonymous said...

It's typical of the right-wing dittoherd to cherry-pick their quotes all out of context. They do exactly the same w/ the Bible to justify all of their self-righteous positions.

Note that we have to pay very very close attention to the one Biblical verse that can be interpreted as being "against" homosexuality, but the dittoherd conveniently ignores many other Bible verses instructing us to sacrific animals, sleep w/our fathers, and other such things.

It's easy to mash up stuff like this to make it "look" the way you want it to. But in the end, what does it mean? Meh - not so much.

Anonymous said...

I doubt Pelosi has ever actually said these things. I know some of them are fake.

SJT said...

This is weirder than most of these forwards. Most, if not all, of the Pelosi comments seem to be totally fabricated by the author.

Why Pelosi? Why not Obama, since he's, you know, actually the President? I'm guessing misogyny was a big reason, combined with the fact that a lot of people actually like Obama while Pelosi is an easier target to smear.

A lot of these Jefferson quotes are funny in their lack of context as well.

The one about "compelling a man to subsidize beliefs" is part of an argument by Jefferson for a strong separation of Church and state, something that a lot of right wingers are actually opposed to.

The fact that they would bring up "paying debts as you go" is laughable in light of the policies of Reagan and the Bushes.

The one about the "tree of liberty" has sadly been twisted by at least one supposed "patriot", Tim McVeigh, who was wearing a t-shirt with that very quote on it at the time of his arrest.

Anonymous said...

"Experience demands that man is the only animal which devours his own kind, for I can apply no milder term to the general prey of the rich on the poor."

Potato Head said...

My reading of history convinces me that most bad government results from too much government." Turns out to be actually written by someone else. This was just the first quote I decided to look up. what are the odds the others have a similar provenance?

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