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this what one calls Mexican logic
This is a combination of 'funny' and 'frustrating'.
Interview of Illegal Mexican Immigrant

Here is a REAL INTERVIEW with an illegal Mexican at a protest march in Texas.
This is good! Below is a good example of a discussion with a master of circular
logic. Don't be logical, don't respect the truth or your adversary, just say
what you think that makes a new case when the previous case gets too difficult
to defend.

Jim Moore reporting for a Houston TV station on the streets of downtown Houston

Jim: Juan, I see that you and thousands of other protesters are marching in the
streets to demonstrate for your cause. Exactly what is your cause and what do
you expect to accomplish by this protest?

Juan: We want our rights. We will show you how powerful we are. We will bring
Houston to its knees!

Jim: What rights?

Juan: Our right to live here...legally. Our right to get all the benefits you
get.

Jim: When did you come to the United States?

Juan: Six years ago. I crossed over the border at night with seven other
friends.

Jim: Why did you come?

Juan: For work I can earn as much in a month as I could in a year in Mexico.
Besides, I get free health care, our Mexican children can go to school free,
if I lose my job I will get Welfare, and someday I will have the Social
Security. Nothing like that in Mexico!

Jim: Did you feel badly about breaking our immigration laws when you came?

Juan: No! Why should I feel bad? I have a right to be here. I have a right to
amnesty.
I paid lots of money for my Social Security and Green Cards.

Jim: How did you acquire those documents?

Juan: From a guy in Dallas . He charged me a lot of money too.
Jim: Did you know that those documents were forged?

Juan: It is of no matter. I have a right to be here and work.
Jim: What is the "right" you speak of?

Juan: The right of all Aliens. It is found in your Constitution. Read it!

Jim: I have read it, but I do not remember it saying anything about rights for
Aliens.

Juan: It is in that part where it says that all men have Alien rights, like the
right to pursue happiness. I wasn't happy in Mexico, so I came here.

Jim: I think you are referring to the declaration of Independence and that
document speaks to unalienable rights. Not Alien rights.

Juan: Whatever.
Jim: Since you are demanding to become an American citizen, why then are you
carrying a Mexican Flag?
Juan: Because I am Mexican.

Jim: But you said you want to be given amnesty ... to become a US citizen.

Juan: No. This is not what we want. This is our country, a part of Mexico that
you Gringos stole from us. We want it returned to its rightful owner.

Jim: Juan, you are standing in Texas. After winning the war with Mexico, Texas
became a Republic, and later Texans voted to join the USA. It was not stolen
from Mexico.

Juan: That is a Gringo lie. Texas was stolen. So was California, New Mexico and
Arizona. It is just like all the other stuff you Gringos steal, like oil and
babies. You are a country of thieves.

Jim: Babies? You think we steal babies?

Juan: Sure. Like from Korea and Vietnam and China. I see them all over the
place.
You let all these foreigners in, but try to keep us Mexicans out. How is this
fair?

Jim: So, you really don't want to become an American citizen then.
Juan: I just want my rights! Everyone has a right to live, work, and speak their
native language wherever and whenever they please. That's another thing we
demand. All signs and official documents should be in Spanish. Teachers must
teach in Spanish. Soon, more people here in Houston will speak Spanish than
English. It is our right!

Jim: If I were to cross over the border into Mexico without proper
documentation,
what rights would I have there?

Juan: None. You would probably go to jail, but that's different.

Jim: How is it different? You said everyone has the right to live wherever they
please.

Juan: You Gringos are a bunch of land grabbing thieves. Now you want Mexico too?
Mexico has its rights. You Gringos have no rights in Mexico. Why would you want
to go there anyway? There is no free medical service, schools, or welfare there
for foreigners such as you. You cannot even own land in my country. Stay in the
country of your birth.

Jim: I can see that there is no way that we can agree on this issue. Thank you
for your comments.

Juan: Viva Mexico!

Pass this along to every American citizen in your address books and to every
representative in the state and federal government. If you choose to remain
uninvolved, do not be amazed when you no longer have a nation to call your own
nor anything you have worked for left since it will be "redistributed" to the
activists while you are so peacefully staying out of the "fray". Check history,
it is full of nations/empires that disappeared when its citizens no longer held
their core beliefs and values.
One person CAN make a difference. One plus one plus one plus one plus one plus
one........
The battle for our secure borders and immigration laws that actually mean
something, however, hasn't even begun.
Juan will not fight if needed for this country but he will let your sons die so
that he can stay and have all of these things when will we stop it ?

7 comments:

Anonymous said...

A "real" interview. Kind of like how Bush was a "real" Texan.

CharlieE said...

Funny, but there's no link to the video...

gruaud said...

"Don't be logical, don't respect the truth or your adversary, just say
what you think that makes a new case when the previous case gets too difficult
to defend."

Sounds like just about every
Republican who ran for office
during the last 20 years.

Valeyard said...

It takes some real cojones to use a fake interview to prove your opponent has no respect for the truth.

ferschitz said...

Rightwing think tank propoganda.

That said, I had a blog "conversation" with someone who professed to be a conservative. The postings were polite and seemed sincere. This person claimed that their Number One concern (which tallies with some conservatives I know) is "illegal immigrants," plus not wanting to pay for ANY services for "illegal immigrants."

Given the seeming sincerity of the blog post, we had a sort of "ok" conversation about it. The rightwing has really pumped up "illegals" a big ticket issue of "concern."

My take is that it's just more of the same propoganda sent out to distract conservatives from how badly this country has been ripped off by the oligarchs. Make no mistake, the Supreme Court decision "Citizens United" this past January was a game-changer.

My belief is that we are experiencing a paradigm shift, and that it's becoming less relevant which pol party is in power. It's rightwing all the time with our rights as citizens being removed in one fashion or another.

Blaming "problems" on illegals is just one to shift our attention from the fact that the oligarchs have off-shored most of our jobs to third world countries. Pitting us against Mexicans for crummy jobs at paltry wages is the biggest trick in the books.

I'll stop now, but this is the usual load of crap.

Wake up.

Anonymous said...

http://www.snopes.com/politics/immigration/interview.asp

I think conservatives lie as easily as breathing. And they lie to themselves most of all.

Anonymous said...

Let's ignore the fac that it's false for a moment, and consider this:

"For work I can earn as much in a month as I could in a year in Mexico. Besides, I get free health care, our Mexican children can go to school free, if I lose my job I will get Welfare, and someday I will have the Social Security. Nothing like that in Mexico!"

Pretend that dichotomy is 100% true for a moment, and consider the implications...

It's almost as if fair wages and liberal social programs make a country a desireable place to live, while more "free market" places without those things are lousy places to live ! And that's why people leave the latter to go to the former!

Why - liberalism makes life better! And to think, you read it right here, in a right-wing forward!

 
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