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FW: Apology!

This IDIOT has got to go!

Subject: FW: Apology!

14 comments:

Thx 4 Fish said...: Would they be OK with that apology if it saved even one soldier's life? I think I already know the answer to that one.

I'm glad to see the birth control silliness continues. The male dominated Repubs and the male-dominated religions are doing more to highlight women's continuing second class status than anything a woman's group could ever do.; 13 March, 2012 14:04
gruaud said...: The Catholic "controversy" over contraceptives and health care is just another example of a parochial religious group trying to impose its will on the rest of us.

Nobody is forcing you to wear contraceptives or have abortions. Just keep it to yourselves, quit whining about it, and leave the rest of us alone. A person's sex life is none of an employer's business. Nor is it that of that flaming Nazi gasbag, Limbaugh.

And Branco, as always, is about as nuanced as a case of diarrhea. But less intelligent than the resulting mess.; 13 March, 2012 16:08
Anonymous said...: The Catholic "controversy" over contraceptives and health care is just another example of a parochial religious group trying to impose its will on the rest of us It is impossible to be more wrong on this and this illustrates the level of ignorance from the frequent commentators on this site. How is the Catholic church imposing anything on anyone against their will by exercising their FREEDOM to believe and act on their beliefs?

Nobody is forcing you to wear contraceptives or have abortions No, fool, it appears that you, Obama, and commissar Sebelius want to FORCE the Catholic Church to pay for these things that they don't believe in. Who's trying to impose their will on someone?

Do you see where you are wrong?; 13 March, 2012 17:52
Anonymous said...: A person's sex life is none of an employer's business. And the unintended consequence of your, Obama's and Sebelius' thought process is that your ruling forces the employer to make the employees sex life their business. When the federal government forces businesses that are self insured (ever heard of these? there are lots and lots) to provide sex related services, then they have just invaded that privacy by forcing the employer to build a database of who is using which, if any, of these sex related services.; 13 March, 2012 18:08
Marc with a C said...: Blow it out your ass, anon. You'd care a lot more about contraception if altar boys could get pregnant.; 13 March, 2012 19:00
Anonymous said...: How is the Catholic church imposing anything on anyone against their will by exercising their FREEDOM to believe and act on their beliefs?

They are free to do whatever they like. They are not free to restrict the choices of others. Pretty basic.

No, fool, it appears that you, Obama, and commissar Sebelius want to FORCE the Catholic Church to pay for these things that they don't believe in

Except that a majority of states already had statutes like this, with nary a peep from the Catholic church. Funny thing, that.

As for paying for things you don't believe it, can I get my tax refund for the Iraq war soon? Can my tax dollars stop subsidizing the tax exempt kid diddlers over at the Catholic church?

And if I'm an employer and I feel my religion forbids, say... any medical treatment of any kind, am I free to just tell my employees to fuck off if they get sick? Can I provide them with "insurance" which doesn't actually cover anything, since that would violate my sacred beliefs?

When the federal government forces businesses that are self insured (ever heard of these? there are lots and lots) to provide sex related services, then they have just invaded that privacy by forcing the employer to build a database of who is using which, if any, of these sex related services.

Oh noes! Sex related services!!!! Someone think of all the children! Lord knows if health insurance is required to cover basic health care expenses, can a second holocaust be far off?

Today its birth control without co pay, tomorrow we might be having to pay for well woman visits and prostate exams, which are super icky and sinful!!!!

Of course, I'd be more convinced if these plans also excluded things like Viagra (especially for unmarried men) and vasectomies for Catholics. No one ever lost a testicle because of lack of Viagra. Birth control pills, on the other hand, have plenty of non sex related medical uses.; 13 March, 2012 19:09
gruaud said...: I love it when con trolls post here.; 13 March, 2012 20:18
Anonymous said...: Blow it out your ass, anon. You'd care a lot more about contraception if altar boys could get pregnant. Good one. Did that thought come to you while you were masturbating in your mommy's basement?

They are not free to restrict the choices of others. We all have a choice of where we work. Better benefits at company B than company A? Don't like the medical insurance that your employer provides for you? Purchase your own coverage. Many employers offer employees an opt out from the group policy offered. It's called freedom. You remember the thing that made this country great?

Except that a majority of states already had statutes like this, with nary a peep from the Catholic church. I guess that lawsuits carried to the supreme courts, receipt of exemptions from these state laws, and moving to self insured status because of them all constitute "nary a peep".

Of course, I'd be more convinced if these plans also excluded things like Viagra (especially for unmarried men) and vasectomies for Catholics. I wasn't aware that Viagra prevented pregnancy, was prescribed to bring on sterilization or caused abortions? Since vasectomy is a sterilization procedure, I'm pretty sure that the catholic church is complaining about being forced to provide coverage for this procedure.

And if I'm an employer and I feel my religion forbids, say... any medical treatment of any kind, am I free to just tell my employees to fuck off if they get sick? Can I provide them with "insurance" which doesn't actually cover anything, since that would violate my sacred beliefs? Actually, your train of thought is driving employers to provide no coverage whatsoever. Because, yes, in the U.S., employers do, and always have, provided medical coverage voluntarily. Your idiotic mentality that you are entitled to this benefit has created an environment where employers are going to more often choose not to supply the benefit rather than have to comply with all of your stupid laws and restrictions. If Obamacare is still on the books in 2014, that's what you'll see happen. Employers have already done the math. It is cheaper for them to pay the fine than it is to provide the benefit. What do you think they will choose?

As for paying for things you don't believe it, can I get my tax refund for the Iraq war soon? You'll have to stand in line behind all of us that are waiting for our rebates for welfare, food stamps, green energy pipe dream investments, bank bailouts, automotive bailouts and social security payments which we'll never get back.; 14 March, 2012 03:00
Thx 4 Fish said...: It is clear that no one is getting any taxes back. Churches however, continue to enjoy preferential treatment anytime they can reasonably claim 'religious belief' is at stake. An individual with a similar set of beliefs not based in religion, however can suck it. We may be the land of the free, but that freedom is in the hands of corporations over individuals.

If people were dependent on their churches to obtain health insurance instead of their employer this would be a very different conversation. When the Catholics can not force their own followers to abide it's rules, but want freedom to impose that belief on their employees through employment policy, then they seem less like a religion and more like a mini kingdom.; 14 March, 2012 09:21
CharlieE said...: Anonymous said: Actually, your train of thought is driving employers to provide no coverage whatsoever.

And I say, "That would be awesome!"

You'd think that the Republicans would be doing everything possible to relieve business owners of the burden of dealing with insurance, but I guess their love of the insurance companies is greater than their love of business.

I'd be tickled if every employer in the country stopped offering health insurance tomorrow.

Bring on single payer.; 14 March, 2012 09:28
Anonymous said...: Did that thought come to you while you were masturbating in your mommy's basement?

Again with the dirty thoughts. Did you think of that while diddling an Altar boy?

We all have a choice of where we work.

Except pharmacists, apparently.

Many employers offer employees an opt out from the group policy offered.

Yup, so if you really care so much just shut the hell up, pay the fine, let your employees buy good insurance on the state exchanges, and get back to preaching love and tolerance and all that other stuff churches are supposed to actually believe in.

It's called freedom. You remember the thing that made this country great?

Freedom was one factor, along with slavery, racism, imperialism, tons of luck and a hell of a lot of government spending.

I guess that lawsuits carried to the supreme courts, receipt of exemptions from these state laws, and moving to self insured status because of them all constitute "nary a peep".

Pretty much, since most of the state laws have been upheld and followed without complaint for a long time, and most supposedly outraged organizations had been complying without a second thought. Georgetown is the exception, not the rule.

Its like comparing a firecracker to an A-bomb.

I wasn't aware that Viagra prevented pregnancy, was prescribed to bring on sterilization or caused abortions?

The pill doesn't sterilize or cause abortions either. So stop lying about it.

But Viagra certainly could lead to abortion or all sorts of immoral behavior if given to unmarried men, who might use it to have sex outside of marriage, possibly even with another man! If they church really cared they would make sure that only married, monogamous, straight men had access to it under their health plans.

Since vasectomy is a sterilization procedure, I'm pretty sure that the catholic church is complaining about being forced to provide coverage for this procedure.

Funny, I never heard a peep about it. Lots of complaining about birth control, which saves money and is used for all kinds of non-sex related medical conditions, but nothing about vasectomy coverage.

Actually, your train of thought is driving employers to provide no coverage whatsoever.

Its not my train of thought, its the reality of your "freedom" based insurance market. Most business don't want to deal with insurance because its an increasingly expensive headache, and that's without even having to worry that your lady employees might be getting dirty slut pills from their doctors. I can only imagine the stress level when that horrible thought is part of the equation.

You'll have to stand in line behind all of us that are waiting for our rebates for welfare, food stamps, green energy pipe dream investments, bank bailouts, automotive bailouts and social security payments which we'll never get back.

Sorry, no. Iraq came first and cost more than all those things put together. And we will see a lot of that money back, including the Social Security payments and most of the bailout money. And we get economic benefits from all of it, especially food stamps.

Still waiting for anything good to come out of Iraq.

Still waiting.; 14 March, 2012 09:37
ferschitz said...: I love the smell of fresh troll "concern" in the morning.

Carry on...; 14 March, 2012 11:04
Hooray4US said...: Marc comment: You'd care a lot more about contraception if altar boys could get pregnant.

Concern Troll Response: "Good one. Did that thought come to you while you were masturbating in your mommy's basement?"

My response to Concern Troll: while I cannot speak for Marc, I can say that: I didn't think that whilst masturbating in my mommy's basement. Rather I thought the same thing that Marc did because of the HUGE amount of RC Priests world-wide who've been sued for abusing many many children.

But I guess we now all know how Concern Troll spends his/her time, don't we?? Enjoy Father Josepeh and his 4 very young sons, much???; 14 March, 2012 11:09
blaney said...: Shorter Anon Troll:

Waaaaah, all these dirty libs are getting sexytime while I am NOT. Unfair!; 14 March, 2012 13:12