tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3921098406878065065.post534631201096579720..comments2023-11-05T03:05:05.785-05:00Comments on MyRightWingDad.net: Fw: WISCONSIN TEACHER ACTUAL WAGES - THIS WILL GET YOUR ATTENTIONUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3921098406878065065.post-59145806872496630572011-03-18T01:23:46.208-04:002011-03-18T01:23:46.208-04:00I strongly suspect that the incomes listed are inf...I strongly suspect that the incomes listed are inflated by including overtime ( where applicable ) and the and fuzzy math factoring in benefits in an equally rounded-to-the-next inflated fashion. They did the same thing with the auto workers during the bailout hoo-hah.<br /><br />What I'd like to know is, where's the consistency though? When these same boot lickers attempt to whitewash MrCreosotenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3921098406878065065.post-57952013111407675602011-03-17T17:43:12.601-04:002011-03-17T17:43:12.601-04:00@ anon
"Why is it that conservatives are so ...@ anon<br /><br />"Why is it that conservatives are so easily led into attacking others in the middle and working classes - based on dubious statistics - all while remaining complacent about the wealthy?"<br /><br />I'd chalk it up to their pronounced authoritarian streak.<br /><br />They don't really think; they just follow their marching orders. A good place to look at this gruaudnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3921098406878065065.post-84806775143482818652011-03-17T13:37:09.634-04:002011-03-17T13:37:09.634-04:00Motivating jealousy amongst private sector workers...Motivating jealousy amongst private sector workers, who are getting paid less for doing more these days. Nice job deflecting attention from the fact that private sector workers should questioning their bosses' movtivations & employment practices, as well as their bosses' salaries.<br /><br />Why would you want your fellow workers to *make less money* just because you think you'reAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3921098406878065065.post-26930951128010087752011-03-16T18:41:22.644-04:002011-03-16T18:41:22.644-04:00I'm a teacher's daughter, so I LMAO every ...I'm a teacher's daughter, so I LMAO every time someone says that teaching is "nine months of work."katzhttp://cboye.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3921098406878065065.post-78271290533049714582011-03-16T17:59:20.945-04:002011-03-16T17:59:20.945-04:00This email tries very hard to convince us of somet...This email tries very hard to convince us of something that we know is not true. Anyone who knows a few teachers knows that teachers don't live in big, new houses and don't drive Hummers! They take lower pay than their private-sector neighbors and the trade-off is job security and benefits. They take a job with a definite salary cap and trade it for retirment benefits. Teachers aren'tThx 4 Fishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07626498268837878537noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3921098406878065065.post-54418096869922548222011-03-16T17:49:29.796-04:002011-03-16T17:49:29.796-04:00Wow! That is some pretty good cha-ching for doing ...Wow! That is some pretty good cha-ching for doing an incredibly tough job but be careful what you criticize because these people are pretty close to being considered "elitist", whom you believe are the scourge of the earth. It doesn't matter where you live or what you earn in America, we are in the top 3% affluent people of the world. Instead of worrying what other people earn, tryAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3921098406878065065.post-53978333924598464252011-03-16T16:19:50.342-04:002011-03-16T16:19:50.342-04:00I don't have time to do a proper search, but h...I don't have time to do a proper search, but here's <a href="http://www.postcrescent.com/article/99999999/APC0110/80221166/DataMine-Search-Wisconsin-teacher-salaries" rel="nofollow">a news site</a> with a searchable Wisconsin teacher salary database. I picked a random county (Sheboygan) and a random name on the list (#4 filtered by teacher) and got a full-time teacher with a Master's Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3921098406878065065.post-54464239161473747502011-03-16T16:01:52.406-04:002011-03-16T16:01:52.406-04:00$90,000 a year for 9 months = $10,000 a month.
10...$90,000 a year for 9 months = $10,000 a month.<br /><br />10,000/20 working days in a month = $500 a day.<br /><br />500/ 6 working hours a day = $83.33 an hour.<br /><br />83.33/30 students in a day = $2.77<br /><br />That is $2.77 per child per hour! You can't get a high schooler to babysit at that rate. And who knows? Your kid might even get educated at the same time.<br /><br />And, Marc with a Chttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13185217636530362867noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3921098406878065065.post-29942854790726500842011-03-16T14:29:53.427-04:002011-03-16T14:29:53.427-04:00I question these figures. Where's the link to...I question these figures. Where's the link to prove that they're accurate? Since there's no link, my conclusion is that they're falisfied in some way. As others have commented, there's just these rank financial numbers with no other info to go along with them.<br /><br />We can argue until the cows come home whether these alleged salaries are fair or not, but what's theTootseyenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3921098406878065065.post-65778661516850559252011-03-16T13:39:01.601-04:002011-03-16T13:39:01.601-04:00@ Anon
What you say is true, but all of that is a...@ Anon<br /><br />What you say is true, but all of that is also assuming that 1) the salary number quoted is correct and 2) This "Mr. Nelson" isn't some kind of supervisor managing all the garbage men, which would make a lot more sense. <br /><br />I haven't been able to find the source of the quoted figure, so for all we know this was pulled from thin air. However, a quick Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3921098406878065065.post-52628359718756136932011-03-16T12:35:24.596-04:002011-03-16T12:35:24.596-04:00Let’s take a look at Mr Nelson the Madison Garbage...Let’s take a look at Mr Nelson the Madison Garbage truck driver. Made $159,258 Of which $109,892 was overtime this means his regular wage for a 40 hr week was $49,366 per year. This figures out to $23.73 per hour. Time and a half at this wage comes to $35.60 per hour $109,892 over time divided by $35.60 comes to 3086 hrs of over time divided by 52 weeks comes to dam near 60 hrs per week over Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3921098406878065065.post-67444597770288100912011-03-16T11:37:03.209-04:002011-03-16T11:37:03.209-04:00The figures offered are for salary + benefits, and...The figures offered are for salary + benefits, and I'm guessing that the income has been *padded* to include extra for vacation & sick leave, which really isn't collected. In other words, I question the accuracy of these income figures.<br /><br />Like Charlie (and others above), I know a number of teachers who've been working for at least 20 years or more. All are at the top blaneynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3921098406878065065.post-12710309862339972492011-03-16T11:17:51.966-04:002011-03-16T11:17:51.966-04:00I have no idea if those figures are real, but my w...I have no idea if those figures are real, but my wife, who teaches elementary school in another state, earns nowhere near that.<br /><br />She has a master's degree and 30 years of experience and now earns a whopping $60,000 per year. Unlike many private sector employees, she does not get a single day of paid vacation, though she does get two months off without pay each year.<br /><br />Oh, CharlieEhttp://www.megalinkblasterreview.netnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3921098406878065065.post-69592789828514208812011-03-16T11:05:58.487-04:002011-03-16T11:05:58.487-04:00Why is making around $142K per year as a Primary S...Why is making around $142K per year as a Primary School Principal looked on as outrageous? I note that while there's this "outrage" over that salary, there's no indication of how large the Primary School is, how many students, how many teachers, etc.<br /><br />Geez, try running a school for a day and see how friggin "easy" it is. <br /><br />Why is it so outrageous Hooray4USnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3921098406878065065.post-48249304475011923472011-03-16T10:58:33.419-04:002011-03-16T10:58:33.419-04:00"OH TO BE A TEACHER OR COLLEGE PROFESSOR IN W..."OH TO BE A TEACHER OR COLLEGE PROFESSOR IN WISCONSIN "<br /><br />Sure, why not? Just pay to go to the college of your choice to get a BA/BS, then pay to do a 5th year of teaching credentials, and more than likely *also* pay for a Masters Degree. And in the case of Univ Professors, pay to do a PhD. Not to mention: working hard to get decent grades, spending time student teaching &ferschitznoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3921098406878065065.post-63073851296339577932011-03-16T10:39:11.729-04:002011-03-16T10:39:11.729-04:00Quiz time!
Hey conservatives, who made these stat...Quiz time!<br /><br />Hey conservatives, who made these statements:<br /><br />“We must close union offices, confiscate their money and put their leaders in prison. We must reduce workers salaries and take away their right to strike” <br /><br />“Where free unions and collective bargaining are forbidden, freedom is lost.” <br /><br />Give up?<br /><br />The first one was Adolf Hitler, May 2, 1933gruaudnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3921098406878065065.post-37120061874000072152011-03-16T10:21:38.838-04:002011-03-16T10:21:38.838-04:00"The average private bus driver makes $9-13 ..."The average private bus driver makes $9-13 an hour (about 20,000 year) with no pension, or healthcare."<br /><br />Yeah, someone desperate enough to work for that amount of money is EXACTLY who I want to put in charge of driving a vehicle full of children. When jobs pay poorly, people have little incentive to keep the job, or do a good job. And the temptation to supplement their Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3921098406878065065.post-17772617806647220812011-03-16T09:56:29.609-04:002011-03-16T09:56:29.609-04:00If those salaries are too high, what would conserv...If those salaries are too high, what would conservatives recommend we pay a private-sector employee with a Bachelor's or Master's degree and twenty years of experience in their field? I'm guessing not <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/28/business/economy/28leonhardt.html" rel="nofollow">$350,000 a year</a>.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3921098406878065065.post-63755831980328519992011-03-16T08:56:55.045-04:002011-03-16T08:56:55.045-04:00AND WE ARE SUPPOSED TO CONTINUE PAYING 100% OF THE...<i>AND WE ARE SUPPOSED TO CONTINUE PAYING 100% OF THEIR GENEROUS RETIREMENT? THEY HAVE SHUT DOWN SCHOOLS AS THEY DON'T WANT TO PAY 5.8% OF IT THEMSELVES ....REALLY? </i><br /><br />Nope. False. Wrong.<br /><br />As has been said a million times, the workers in Wisconsin had ALREADY agreed to salary and benefit cuts in order to help balance the budget. None of the protests were about that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3921098406878065065.post-49450213517386192612011-03-16T07:56:59.284-04:002011-03-16T07:56:59.284-04:00Those damn evil teachers doing a job that most peo...Those damn evil teachers doing a job that most people don't want to do. It is sooooo easy all you do is go in sit down watch the kids for a little while. Take nice long extended lounge breaks during the day. Then you get three months off.LiberalGunnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09257084751079129799noreply@blogger.com