Fw: MEZIVINSKY

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"All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them"
"I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use."   Galileo    R/    T                 http://www.snopes.com/politics/clintons/mezvinsky.asp


 
REPORTED AS TRUE IN Snopes...
Do You Know This Guy?
He is Edward "Ed" Mezvinsky, born January 17, 1937.  
Then you’ll probably say, “Who is Ed Mezvinsky?” 
Well, he is a former Democrat congressman who represented Iowa's 1st congressional district in the United States House of Representatives for two terms, from 1973 to 1977.
He sat on the House Judiciary Committee that decided the fate of Richard Nixon.
He was outspoken saying that Nixon was a crook and a disgrace to politics and the nation and should be impeached.
He and the Clintons were friends and very politically intertwined for many years.
Ed Mezvinsky had an affair with NBC News reporter Marjorie Sue Margolies and later married her after his wife divorced him.
In 1993, Marjorie Margolies-Mezvinsky, then a freshman Democrat in Congress, cast the deciding vote that got President Bill Clinton’s controversial tax package through the House of Representatives.
In March 2001, Mezvinsky was indicted and later pleaded guilty to 31 of 69 counts of bank fraud, mail fraud, and wire fraud.
Ed Mezvinsky embezzled more than $10 million dollars from people via both a Ponzi scheme and the notorious Nigerian e-mail scams.
He was found guilty and sentenced to 80 months in federal prison.
After serving less than five years in federal prison, he was released in April 2008 and remains on federal probation.
To this day, he still owes $9.4 million in restitution to his victims.
About now you are saying, “So what!”
Well, this is Marc and Chelsea Mezvinsky.
That’s right; Ed Mezvinsky is Chelsea Clinton's father-in law.
Now Marc and Chelsea are in their early thirties and purchased a 10.5 million dollar NYC apartment.
Has anyone heard mention of any of this in any of the media?
If this guy was Jenna or Barbara Bush's, or better yet, Sarah Palin's daughter's father-in-law, the news would be an everyday headline and every detail would be reported over and over.
And yet liberals say there are no double standards in political reporting.  
And people are already talking about Hillary as our next President! 

Lying and corruption seem to make Democrat candidates more popular.


When the people fear the government, there is tyranny. When the government fears the people, there is liberty.
                 ~~Thomas Jefferson
WAKE UP AMERICA
 
"I love this country, it's the government I'm afraid of"

Is Facebook killing the RW FWD:?

Facebook is no longer for young people posting selfies, song lyrics and their lunch plans. The older generations are on it in larger numbers, and they seem to be taking their RW FWD:s with them. I'm having a harder and harder time scraping up forwarded material for MRWD. 


I am kicking around the idea of using some of the Facebook postings in addition to the FWD:s. Check out the subreddit Forwards From Grandma

Before making that move, however, I'd like the opinion of the commenters who are so important to this site. What do you think? 

dave
Curator, MRWD




FWD: give it some thought. LOL!




FW: IS AMERICA A COLLECTION OF IDIOTS, or ARE WE JUST GOVERNED BY IDIOTS?

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Subject: FW: IS AMERICA A COLLECTION OF IDIOTS, or ARE WE JUST GOVERNED BY IDIOTS?




SCARY!

This is factually (and historically) correct - and verifiable.

In 732 AD the Muslim Army which was moving on Paris was defeated and turned back at Tours, France, by Charles Martell.
In 1571 AD the Muslim Army/ Navy was defeated by the Italians and Austrians as they tried to cross the Mediterranean to attack southern Europe in the Battle of Lapanto.
In 1683 AD the Turkish Muslim Army, attacking Eastern Europe, was finally defeated in the Battle of Vienna by German and Polish Christian Armies.

.....This most evil barbarism has been going on for 1,400 years and it seems that at least half of the politicians don't even know it!!! 

If these battles had not been won we might be speaking Arabic and Christianity could be non - existent; Judaism certainly would be.

And let us not forget that Hitler was an admirer of Islam and that the Mufti of Jerusalem was Hitler's guest in Berlin and raised Bosnian Muslim SS Divisions: the 13th and 21st Waffen SS Divisions who killed Jews, Russians, Gypsies, and any other "sub humans".

Reflecting:

A lot of Americans have become so insulated from reality that they imagine that America can suffer defeat without any inconvenience to themselves.  Pause a moment, reflect back.

These events are actual events from history. They really happened!!!

Do you remember?
1.      In 1968, Bobby Kennedy was shot and killed by a Muslim male.
2.      In 1972 at the Munich Olympics, athletes were kidnapped and massacred by Muslim males.
3.      In 1972 a Pan Am 747 was hijacked and eventually diverted to Cairo where a fuse was lit on final approach, it was blown up shortly after landing by Muslim males.
4.      In 1973 a Pan Am 707 was destroyed in Rome, with 33 people killed, when it was attacked with grenades by Muslim males.
5.      In 1979, the US embassy in Iran was taken over by Muslim males.
6.      During the 1980's a number of Americans were kidnapped in Lebanon by Muslim males.
7.      In 1983, the US Marine barracks in Beirut was blown up by Muslim males.
8.      In 1985, the cruise ship Achille Lauro was hijacked and a 70 year old American passenger was murdered and thrown overboard in his wheelchair by Muslim males.
9.      In 1985, TWA flight 847 was hijacked at Athens, and a US Navy diver trying to rescue passengers was murdered by Muslim males.
10. In 1988, Pan Am Flight 103 was bombed by Muslim males.
11.  In 1993, the World Trade Center was bombed the first time by Muslim males.
12.  In 1998, the US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania were bombed by Muslim males.
13.  In 2000, the USS Cole was bombed in a suicide attack while refueling in Aden, Yemen and 17 American sailors were killed and 39 injured. This was the deadliest attack against a US Naval vessel since 1987 and was committed by Muslim males.
14.  On 9/11/01, four airliners were hijacked; two were used as missiles to take down the World Trade Centers and of the remaining two, one crashed into the US Pentagon and the other was diverted and crashed by the passengers. Thousands of people were killed by Muslim males.
15.  In 2002, the United States fought a war in Afghanistan against Muslim males.
16.  In 2002, reporter Daniel Pearl was kidnapped and beheaded by a Muslim male.
17.  In 2013, Boston Marathon Bombing 4 Innocent people including a child killed, 264 injured by Muslim males.

Now, sarcastically, I really don't see a pattern here to justify profiling, do you?

So, to ensure we Americans never offend anyone, particularly fanatics intent on killing us, airport security screeners will no longer be allowed to profile certain people.  So, ask yourself, "Just how stupid are we???" 

Absolutely No Profiling!  They (TSA) must conduct random searches of 80-year-old women, little kids, airline pilots with proper identification, secret agents who are members of
the President's security detail, 85-year old, congressmen with metal hips, a Medal of Honor winner, and former Governor Joe Foss, but leave Muslim Males alone lest they (TSA) be guilty of profiling.  Ask yourself again: "Just how stupid are we?"

Have the American people completely lost their minds, or just their power of reason???

Let's send this to as many people as we can so that the Gloria Aldreds and other stupid people including federal Justices that want to thwart common sense, feel ashamed of themselves -- if they have any such sense.

As the writer of the award winning story 'Forrest Gump' so aptly put it, 'Stupid Is As Stupid Does'.

Each opportunity that you have to send this to a friend or media outlet, forward it!     …OR SIT BACK, JUST KEEP GRIPING, AND DO NOTHING.

In God We Better Trust!  Please pray for our country.

FW: Mr Scam Man

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date: Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 7:54 PM
subject: FW: Mr Scam Man
mailed-by: gmail.com
signed-by: gmail.com

Subject: Mr Scam Man


Dan Roberts recorded this last night.
Let's see how fast it goes viral.

Subject:   Mr. Scam Man... 


Left Click Your Mouse Here:  
Mr. Scam Man   

--- love it !!

Re: FW: Snopes No More...

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date: Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 2:16 AM
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: Important mainly because it was sent directly to you.

I believe you forwarded the earlier version of this anonymous spam a year or two ago.
If you don't trust Snopes, try other fact-check sources,eg:http://urbanlegends.about.com/od/barackobama/a/Obama-Kagan-Connection.htm
Analysis: False. The earlier of the two messages above is a viral version of an article that appeared August 4, 2010 on the political news and opinion website WorldNetDaily.com. As you can see by viewing the "Editor's Note" that replaced the article days later, the website admits the court cases in question were incorrectly described as pertaining to Obama's Constitutional eligibility.

"Those cases, in fact, were a series of unrelated disputes pending before the Supreme Court," the disclaimer states, "and the references have been removed from this report."
Indeed, the references had to be removed because the fact-checking site Snopes.com delved into the details of the specific filings cited above and discovered that not one of them had anything to do with Obama's status as a natural-born U.S. citizen. In fact, the majority of the filings not only predated Obama's presidency but named George W. Bush as the original defendant. The dockets list Elena Kagan as Obama's attorney of record because it was her job as U.S. Solicitor General to represent the Executive Branch.
None of which, sad to say, stopped the grammatically-challenged author of a subsequent message (example #2 above) from repeating the disproven claims and bluntly stating "Snopes lied," when in fact the contrary is true: Snopes got it exactly right, yet again.
Note on George Soros: A later variant of this forwarded email alleges, without proof, that Snopes.com is financially backed by hedge fund tycoon and liberal philanthropist George Soros. This, too, is false. Snopes.com is entirely self-supporting via advertising sales.
Better yet, learn how to retrieve information yourself. Those with unreasoned beliefs cannot emotionally accept the notion that they may be wrong. They protect themselves from reality by being surrounded with filtered information of their bias.
" Reality has a liberal bias."

Fact checking of their beliefs is not something they want. Politically,it is characteristic of the Republicans Remember:
Paul Ryan is being chastised by some in the media this morning for being factually challenged in his speech Wednesday night at the RNC. For instance, factcheckers agree that Ryan falsely implied that President Obama broke a promise to prevent a car factory in Ryan’s hometown from closing, when the factory shut down before Obama took office.
And Ryan repeated now-debunked statements about Obama’s proposed Medicare cuts and other Republicans have repeated claims that have been deemed false about the president changing welfare-to-work requirements. A Romney pollster raised eyebrows this week for saying “we’re not going to let our campaign be dictated by fact-checkers.” What’s true and what’s not in speeches made at the RNC?
And there was this: In describing his pro-life position in August 2012,  Rep. Todd Akin (R-MO) stated that women who are victims of what he called "legitimate rape" rarely get pregnant. He was twisting reality to accommodate his beliefs.
My advice is, if someone doesn't want to be identified with spam they written, you should fact- check before putting your name behind it, even if it fits your beliefs. Especially then, as they may be playing you for their purpose.

Fwd: TPA Airlines ...


 
 

From: sgalan
Sent: 8/29/2012 8:26:04 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time
Subj: Fwd: TPA Airlines ...
 











 
  TPA Airlines ..
 
 

 
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Fw: America's First Lady: A Disgrace

Sent: Friday, June 06, 2014 4:38 PM
 
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America's First Lady: A Disgrace


Fwd: Fw: Fwd: Fwd: Please read this one !!!

This is supposed to be the United States of America, not some Orwellian dystopia where citizens can be arrested, detained, and deemed mentally deficient all because they expressed their dissenting political opinion!

DailySanity Newsletter from Conservative-Daily.com

Government Arrests People for Anti-Obama Posts!

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Dear Conservative,
I have been thinking over the past few days about a simple question: Why do Liberals despise the Bill of Rights?
Whether it is the Second Amendment's right to bear arms or the Fourth Amendment's protection against unreasonable searches and seizures, Liberals seem to look at these rights as nothing more than guidelines.
Now, I know what many of you are thinking. Yes, there are plenty of Republicans who oppose much of the Bill of Rights. While they may be "Republicans," that is nothing more than a title. They certainly are not Conservatives.
While it has always been fashionable for the Left to target the Second Amendment, it has been assumed that the First Amendment was set in stone and wasn't up for debate. That was until Barack Obama entered the White House. Now, Harry Reid has promised to put a Constitutional amendment up for a vote to change the 1st Amendment!
Make no mistake; there are a lot of people who really hate Obama and his leftist policies. You can count me as one of them. As much as individuals may hate Obama, hatred alone has never been a crime. U.S. citizens have an enumerated right to speak their minds when it comes to politics without fear of being punished.
So, what do we do when U.S. citizens begin to be rounded up and detained over "controversial" Facebook posts about the President? What are we supposed to do when the government equates disapproval of a President with a conspiracy to overthrow the government? 
This is happening right now!
The IRS scandal is a perfect example of government bureaucrats punishing Conservatives for their political views. Even though Conservative non-profit groups were doing the same thing as their Liberal counterparts, only those on the Right were targeted by Lois Lerner.
Most people will never experience this type of targeting and 1st Amendment violations unless they start up their own non-profit. But what about the things you post on Facebook, Twitter, or even over e-mail?
You might remember the story of Brendan Raub. Brendan is a Marine who would often take to Facebook to express his, for lack of a better word, "displeasure" of how the Obama administration was running the country.
In one of his Facebook posts, Brendan listed everything wrong with the country today, talking about how our leaders do not respect the People. Ironically, the post also criticized how the government doesn't respect individuals' rights.
Within days, Brendan Raub was in police custody. Not because he physically hurt anyone... Not because he was plotting to overthrow the country... But because he voiced his dissent (rather eloquently, I might add) and urged people to take their country back.
Once he was detained, the FBI forced Raub to undergo a psychological evaluation against his will. When the tests came back, it was determined that Brendan Raub was suffering from "Oppositional Defiant Disorder." This is a mental disorder where individuals cannot help but oppose authority figures.
Under this definition, half of the country is "Oppositional Defiant." Actually, according to the most recent polling, 55% of the country disapproves of Obama. Is that what it has come to? First, we were deemed racists for opposing Obama. Now we're mentally ill for disagreeing with him?
This is supposed to be the United States of America, not some Orwellian dystopia where citizens can be arrested, detained, and deemed mentally deficient all because they expressed their dissenting political opinion!
This is exactly what people say could never happen in America... And yet it continues to happen!
Now, the Democrats are determined to abolish/alter the 1st Amendment of the Constitution to re-define what political speech is permissible and what political speech warrants a jail sentence!
This is all connected! The Left wants to control what you can and cannot say as a way to control dissent. Harry Reid has promised that he will put a Constitutional amendment up for a vote in the Senate to change the 1st Amendment. These two Liberal branches of government are conspiring to take away YOUR right to free speech and they expect you to just accept it.
Over my dead body!
Growing angrier by the day,
Joe Otto
Conservative Daily

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Fw: THE WASHINGTON POST; Emptiness at West Point

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Emptiness at West Point

By Charles Krauthammer, Published: May 29

It is fitting that on the day before President Obama was to give his grand West Point address defending the wisdom and prudence of his foreign policy, his government should be urging Americans to evacuate Libya.
Libya, of course, was once the model Obama intervention — the exquisitely calibrated military engagement wrapped in the rhetorical extravagance of a nationally televised address proclaiming his newest foreign policy doctrine (they change to fit the latest ad hoc decision): the responsibility to protect.
You don’t hear R2P bandied about much anymore. Not with more than 50,000 civilians having been slaughtered in Syria’s civil war, unprotected in any way by the United States. Nor for that matter do you hear much about Libya, now so dangerously chaotic and jihadi-infested that the State Department is telling Americans to get out.
And you didn’t hear much of anything in the West Point speech. It was a somber parade of straw men, as the president applauded himself for steering the nation on a nervy middle course between extreme isolationism and madcap interventionism. It was the rhetorical equivalent of that classic national security joke in which the presidential aide, devoted to policy option X, submits the following decision memo:
Option 1. All-out nuclear war.
Option 2. Unilateral surrender.
Option 3. Policy X.
The isolationism of Obama’s telling is a species not to be found anywhere. Not even Rand Paul would withdraw from everywhere. And even members of Congress’s dovish left have called for sending drones to Nigeria, for God’s sake.
As for Obama’s interventionists, they are grotesquely described as people “who think military intervention is the only way for America to avoid looking weak” while Obama courageously refuses to believe that “every problem has a military solution.”
Name one person who does.
“Why is it that everybody is so eager to use military force?” Obama recently and plaintively asked about Ukraine. In reality, nobody is. What actual earthlings are eager for is sending military assistance to Ukraine’s woefully equipped forces.
That’s what the interim prime minister asked for when he visited here in March — and was denied. (He was even denied night-vision goggles and protective armor.) Two months later, military assistance was the first thing Petro Poroshenko, Ukraine’s newly elected president, said he wanted from the United States. Note: not boots on the ground.
Same for Syria. It was Obama, not his critics, who went to the brink of a military strike over the use of chemical weapons. From which he then flinched. Critics have been begging Obama to help train and equip the outmanned and outgunned rebels — a policy to which he now intimates he might finally be coming around.
Three years late. Qusair, Homs and major suburbs of Damascus have already been retaken by the government. The battle has by now so decisively tilted toward Assad — backed by Russia, Iran and Hezbollah, while Obama dithered — that Assad is holding triumphal presidential elections next week.
Amid all this, Obama seems unaware of how far his country has fallen. He attributes claims of American decline to either misreading history or partisan politics. Problem is: Most of the complaints are coming from abroad, from U.S. allies with no stake whatsoever in U.S. partisan politics. Their concern is their own security as they watch this president undertake multiple abdications from Warsaw to Kabul.
What is the world to think when Obama makes the case for a residual force in Afghanistan — “after all the sacrifices we’ve made, we want to preserve the gains that you have helped to win” — and then announce a drawdown of American forces to 10,000, followed by total liquidation within two years on a fixed timetable regardless of circumstances?
The policy contradicts the premise. If you want not to forfeit our terribly hard-earned gains — as we forfeited all our gains in Iraq with the 2011 withdrawal — why not let conditions dictate the post-2014 drawdowns? Why go to zero — precisely by 2016?
For the same reason, perhaps, that the Afghan surge was ended precisely in 2012, in the middle of the fighting season — but before the November election. A 2016 Afghan end date might help Democrats electorally and, occurring with Obama still in office, provide a shiny new line to his résumé.
Is this how a great nation decides matters of war and peace — to help one party and polish the reputation of one man? As with the West Point speech itself, as with the president’s entire foreign policy of retreat, one can only marvel at the smallness of it all.
Read more on this issue: The Post’s View: At West Point, President Obama binds America’s hands on foreign affairs E.J. Dionne Jr.: Obama outlines a doctrine where restraint makes us stronger David Ignatius: Obama’s foreign policy repeats some avoidable mistakes The Post’s View: Pulling Libya back from the brink of civil war The Post’s View: President Obama’s foreign policy is based on fantasy

Fwd: Conditions in Israel

Subject: Conditions in Israel
 
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Subject:  Conditions in Israel




My brother and his family live in Jerusalem - he is a minister - and a former Navy SEAL - his office is close to one of Israel 's largest underground military bases.

He called me last night which is very unusual - usually it is email.

He called to tell me that he is sending his family back to the US immediately due to what he is seeing happen within the last week and what he is being told by his military contacts in both the Israel and US military.

He said he is seeing with his own eyes military movements the likes of which he has never seen in his 20+ years in Israel .

What he called a massive redeployment and protective tactics of forces is underway.

Over the last two days he has seen anti-aircraft missile deployments throughout the Jerusalem area including 3 mobile units that he can see from his office windows.

In addition, he has seen very large Israeli armored columns moving fast toward the Sinia where Egypt has now moved in Armor.

There are reports of the top military leaders meeting with Israel 's Sr. Rabbi which is something that has happened preceding every prior military campaign.

His admonition is to watch carefully and pray for Israel and its people.

He is convinced that barring something extraordinary Israel will attack Iran - with or without the US - and very soon.

It is the belief in Israel that Obama does not stand with Israel but with the Arab countries.

He has told me before that Israel will saber rattle from time to time but that this time is very different from what he is seeing and hearing.
He was at the Wailing Wall 2 days ago and there were hundreds of IDF soldiers there. As he was leaving he passed at least 20 military buses full of soldiers in route to the wall.

He has never seen this before either.

Just thought I would pass this along.
My brother is not an alarmist by any means.

When he talks like this it gets my attention for sure and usually I find he knows more than he shares.

There are reports that Israel is asking Obama to come to Israel immediately but they are being answered with silence.

My opinion is that I see the making of the perfect storm.

FW: Threatening LETTER TO WALKER LEGION

Fw: Threatenin​g LETTER TO WALKER LEGION



--- On Thu, 9/27/12, wrote:

From: s
Subject: Threatening LETTER TO WALKER LEGION
To:
Date: Thursday, September 27, 2012, 2:28 PM

Comrades this is a must read, it came from dav state adjutant . we thought it would not happen here, we were wrong.

 
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Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 2:39 PM
To:
Cc:
Subject: FW: Threatening LETTER TO WALKER LEGION

Attention PDC’s, Executive Committee, Foundation Directors, Chapter CDR’s and Adj’s,
 
Please read the email(s) below along with the attached document and share the information with our fellow veterans. It seems that one our fellow veteran organizations (American Legion) post received a letter from a disturbed individual.
 

 
 
From:
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 1:52 PM
To:
Subject: Threatening LETTER TO WALKER LEGION

  
 
Please forward this to all CVSO’s.
 

I received this through one of my veterans this morning. You may want to send this out to the association, in case other counties have similar issues develop.
 
I did verify the information with the Walker American Legion Manager.
 
 
Please read the letter.  This is not a joke.

Fyi.....I have talked with the Post and they have shared it with the PD.......i will keep you in the loop....And will info National if any other Posts receive this....
Sent via DroidX2 on Verizon Wireless™


Subject:
LETTER TO WALKER LEGION
THIS LETTER SHOWED UP IN OUR MAIL TODAY AND WE ARE WONDERING IF ANY OTHER LEGIONS HAVE GOTTEN ONE.

Fwd: No Surgery if You're Over 70

Fwd: No Surgery if You're Over 70

 

 
 From a friend in the South...      At 75, perhaps I should say “good bye” now, just in case.  If you don’t hear from me, you’ll know why.  Something happened that required surgery and not enough Republicans and Independents got off their butts to go hold their nose and vote for Mitt Romney to get this Pretender out of office so we could get rid of Obamacare.  Which is worse?  You, your parents, your grandparents dying because they’re over 70 and need their appendix taken out?  Or using vouchers for Medicare for those under 55 (nothing changes for those over 55).  MB
 
        I was talking last night (Sunday) with my son-in-law's brother who is a Neurosurgeon at Emory Hospital in Atlanta , which, if you are not familiar with it, ranks up there with the finest hospitals in the country.

        A group of non-doctors, from 'our' (????) country's Department of Health arrived last week at Emory for a two day session and is on their rounds around the country to make sure every hospital fully understands the new rules (which start in December (after the elections) concerning treating all patients over 70 years of age.

        You heard of the death squads early on after Obamacare was passed and many people claimed it was not true and that people were misquoting what was in the bill. Well if you believed this you are wrong. DEAD WRONG!

        This group informed the staff Emory and all the doctors present that they will very soon not be allowed to operate on anyone over 70 (no matter how urgent or life threatening the situation is), without first having it approved by a board of eight doctors. Failure to comply will result in a huge financial burden to the hospital and more than likely the doctor will lose his/her ability to practice medicine anywhere in the country.

        This board is to be established at every hospital in the country and the board members will only work eight hours a day. We will discuss this a little later on as the DOH group almost got lynched at this point by the doctors who were present.

        This board of doctors will not be made up of active doctors. All the doctors must be retired - and may even be retired up to 30 or 40 years. Further, Obamacare sees no need or requirement for them to be skilled in surgery. Another very vocal argument broke out here as these doctors likely may not even be aware of what advancements have taken place in surgery over the last 5-10 years nor what is going today as well. Also, anyone who has ever been a doctor can serve on these boards. For example, Individuals with skills only in pediatrics, podiatry, dermatology, etc., may be making decisions as to whether a brain operation is required or not.

        The point that got the Emory doctors so upset originally was that the "Death Board" will be available only 8 hours during the day. And once their 8 hour shift is up, they may have to wait 16 hours to get in touch with them and another hour or two or three to get a decision and permission to operate.

        But they daily have cases in which it is crucial to operate within 30 minutes.

        The staff at Emory Hospital will be coordinating with other hospitals and together they will make a concerted effort to bring about significant changes to this portion of Obamacare.

        When the question was raised from the floor by a young doctor as to whether doctors had to get permission to operate on congressmen and/or future members of the executive branch who would later be over 70, the answer was, "Of course not!"

        When the same young doctor asked, "Why not." They refused to answer.

 
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